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TMT doubles, mini-P90X
5/12/12 1:46 PM
OK, blame this on my insomnia. I posted earlier in a reply to mrslisadawn that I wish I would have done something like this before moving onto Insanity. Insanity uses push-ups and plank based moves late in the wo's to push you to exhaustion. The one hole in TMT is there is not enough upper body strengthening.

P90X doubles is a cardio wo in the morning and an upper body and abs in the evening 3-4Xs/wk. Good luck getting thru TMT abs after an upper body workout. By splitting the cardio and resistance wo's like this you get a chance to recover somewhat during the day and replenish the nutrients in your body. Its also important to not double up on wo's that work the same muscle group the same way the same day. You can swap ABS onto the "pure cardio" days to avoid this. Even after a year of TBB programs I still have to drop to my elbows/knees the 2nd and 3rd time I do this wo in a week! But hey, up the challenge-up the results!

Obviously this is for people who are maxing out on TMT but still have the time constraint that made TMT their program of choice. This schedule uses the Fat Burner Express as the AM workout. Modify as needed to fit your schedule/level of fitness/need for challenge. I am using the One on One (OoO)TMT wo's in this example. So this is a "Maximum Effort-Maximum Results" version. Scale it down with workouts you are comfortable with if you want to. This is the order I do the workouts in. Doing Core after ABS lets my arms recover from being in plank position so I can get more out of the upper resistance workouts.

I use Core on resistance days to help "Engage the Cage" for the upper body wo's. It helps me to maintain proper form. And it satisfies my "need" for cardio. I really don't feel I've had a wo unless I did some cardio.

As I have done this schedule I have altered it it a little for what I think works best for me. Week 1 day 2 has easy-to-hard, but the rest of the schedule has hard-to-easy. This allows you to work up your endurance during the first phase. Hard-to-easy is what Insanity does, pushes you to burn out, gives you little breaks but keeps pushing you out of your comfort zone to do more than you think you can.

So, using P90X doubles as a template I came up with this. (Edited 12-21-11)

WEEK 1 (weeks 1-3)
ABS, Core, OoO Chest and Back
Cardio, Core Cardio, Plyo Intervals
ABS, Core Cardio, Friday Night Arms
Cardio Intervals, Core Cardio, Yoga
ABS, Lower Body, Total body 2
Fat Burner
Yoga

WEEK 2 (weeks 5-7)
AM- PM
Fat Burner- ABS, Core, Upper Body
Plyo Intervals, Core Cardio, Cardio
Fat Burner- ABS,Core, OoO Upper Body
Cardio Intervals, Core, Yoga
Fat Burner- ABS, OoO Lower body,Total Body 2
Cardio Intervals, Core Cardio, Cardio
Yoga

Week 3 (weeks 9&11)
AM- PM
Fat Burner- ABS, Core, Chest and Back
Fat Burner- Plyo Intervals, Core Cardio, Cardio
ABS, Core, Friday Night Arms
Fat Burner- Core Cardio, Cardio Intervals, Yoga
Fat Burner- ABS, Lower Body, Total Body 2
Fat burner
Yoga

WEEK 4 (weeks 10&12)
AM- PM
Fat Burner- ABS, Core, Upper Body
Fat Burner- Plyo Intervals, Core Cardio, Cardio
ABS, Core, OoO Upper Body
Fat Burner- Core Cardio, Cardio, Yoga
Fat Burner- ABS, OoO Lower, Total Body
Cardio Intervals, Core Cardio, Cardio
Yoga

RECOVERY WEEK (weeks 4,8,13)
Cardio Intervals, Cardio, Yoga
Fat Burner
Cardio Intervals, Core Cardio, Cardio
Cardio, Core Cardio, Yoga
Fat Burner
Cardio Intervals, Cardio, Yoga
Yoga

P90X is a 12 wk program. There are 3 phases of 4 weeks each. The first 2 phases are 3 weeks to adapt to and master the wo's and a 4th week to recover. The 1st phase introduces the wo's and the 2nd is to master them; add more weight, reps in the resistance wo's and keep a high level of intensity thru-out the cardio wo's. If you want muscle mass use a weight/band that you max out on at 8-10 reps. For lean/definition use a lighter weight/band that maxes you out at between 12-15reps. The final 3rd phase is a rotation of the 2 previous shedules but rotated every other week for 4 weeks (9&11, 10&12) to add further "muscle confusion".

So week 1 in my schedule is a copy of wks 1-3, wk 2 copies wks 5-7, wks 3 and 4 are wks 9&11, and 10&12 respectively. The recovery weeks are then 4,8 and 13. If you are hard core and want to really push it, here's your opportunity to absolutely max out on TMT! Do the full 12 weeks!

There are also "Lean" and "Classic" P90X schedules. Just drop the AM workout and thats the Classic. The Lean never does the Plyo wo and only has upper/ab wo's 2xs/wk. For day 1 use Fat Burner and day 2 all cardio (Cardio Intervals, Core Cardio and Cardio) to convert this schedule to Lean. It is highly recommended that you do the classic version before attempting doubles.

This appears to be for upper body strengthening but, P90X is acually a very balanced program. But remember, Its your muscles that drive the fat burning when you are resting. If you don't have the time for the 35 minute fat burner in the AM, then Cardio Intervals is intense or go easy in the morning with just cardio. Play with it and taylor it for you.

Just be certain you are eating more to fuel the extra (AM) workout. Nutrition is 80% of your success! Yes, I said 80%. Oh, the OoO wo's are more like 15+ minutes each and there is no warm-up/cool-down on the dvds.

Keep Pressing Play- 4 Times A Day!!
Kurt
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
7/15/11 1:57 PM as a reply to yoga4myback.
It seems like 80% of the people move on from TMT or stop working out. I came back to it half way thru Insanity because of tennis elbow. Doctor's orders-no upper body workouts for 3 weeks. So I tried the P90 master's series DVDs I never did. No offense but after month 1 of insanity they were dissapointing. The sweat you get from insanity is something that you will miss!

TMT is like a mini-insanity. Its almost all cardio. Just push as hard as you can. Once you know the work out, go for as many reps as you can! Like side lunge/side kick. Try to double Janie's pace for the whole minute. Keep count and write it down so you can improve week to week.

Or go interval- In cardio, as you run in place, do better than match Janie. Every 20 seconds pick up the pace till you are sprinting! Same for "the gretch" Step from side to side for 20 seconds, then add the hop. For the final 20 go for some height/distance with a plyo version. Hop/squat run home is when you dig deeper and push to do as many up/back reps as you can! Between DVDs do some push-ups, seriously! something to keep your heart rate up! Only take a mouthfull of water, if you drink more it may come back up on you as you PUSH IT! Please make sure you have enough room for your workout and the shoes/ floor you're on won't be slippery as your sweat puddles underneath you! Don't stop between dvds and moves, jog in place lightly- keep moving!

You can order the Insanity Fast'n'Furious DVD from TBB or your coach. It has a run time of 22 minutes. Work up to 3-4Xs/wk with yoga stretch afterward. For the other 2-3 days rotate the upper body wo's + cardio and lower body/plyo/interval and you will be ready for INSANITY! Use that for the AM wo for doubles! I'm not a coach, just overcompensating for what I think is lacking on this forum.

Don't underestimate TMT! Get the One on One TMT 2 disk set, you won't be dissapointed. Seriously, how good is TMT? Tony has trouble outdoing Tony for the OoO DVDs. Go thru the lower, plyo and cardio interval wo's. There really is little that is new. He changes the order, adds intervals and/or plyo, but they're almost the same. The challenge is to do better than Tony!

I am posting all this because looking back, I wish there was somebody who had moved onto an advanced program give a little advice for the next step. Complete the accelerated results and throw in some OoO for a rotation or 2 and you'll be there! I'm not telling you anything you don't know when I say you work out in a puddle of your own sweat with...TMT!

Sorry if all this seems arrogant. But TMT is really a kick-ass program! In the fit test insanity dvd, Shaun T. asks one of the 2 people doing the fit test if it gets easier after doing the whole program. His reply is "No, but I can do more." I found that's true for TMT!

KPP! 3X/DAY!
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
7/3/11 9:30 AM as a reply to yoga4myback.
Thanks for this. I'm using TMT now and agree that you can make it a pretty intense workout. I wanted also to use this as a ramp for potentially doing Insanity as the next step so I appreciate your extra observation in that area.

BTW, how do you get the Fat Burner Express? Is that a separate video you need to order? Never mind. I see that's part of the P90 package now.

Phil.
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
7/3/11 8:43 PM as a reply to Philb.
No, thank you! I was starting to think I was off on my own paranoid tangent on this. After this round of Insanity I should do my TMT doubles, so I won't be a hypocrite.

4th of july I'm starting Insanity over. I've been doing the fast and furious 6Xs/wk and Insanity insane abs 3Xs/wk. I KNOW I am ready. Even though its half as long as the month 1 wo's its a faster pace. If you can keep up with this wo, you're ready for insanity.

I'll stick with what I said about the accelerated results schedule and OoO TMT. They provide the foundation you'll need for insanity. You can jump into Insanity and just do it. But if you aren't ready for it, It'll have you sucking air and hating life.

I know I needed the sense of accomplishment that completing a program provides. Insanity is hard the first week. From what everybody on my thread said month 2 is even harder and they didn't feel they had adapted until the THIRD week! So going thru the accelerated results schedule with the OoO wo's is recommended. There is no schedule for the OoO TMT wo's anyway. Just swap them directly, or use them to taylor your program.

Are you going to try the doubles or an Insanity adaptation?

KPP!
Kurt
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
7/4/11 7:51 AM as a reply to yoga4myback.
I'm going to give the doubles a try. I found the DVD for Fat Burner Express for sale on the web so ordered that yesterday. I'll do it in the morning and then do the TMT workouts in the evening. That's the plan anyhoo. If it kicks my butt too bad I'll back off for a while.

Phil.
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
7/4/11 1:40 PM as a reply to Philb.
WOW! Let me know how it goes. Thanks for considering it. I hope its not a narcissistic thing to say, but its a little flattering. TMT is a fun program and I'm just trying to support it. I can see where there are people who are maxing it out and don't have the time for a 45 minute+ workout program.

After my reply I edited the original post to explain the progression of doubles and P90X (Lean and Classic) better. Originally I condensed P90X into 4 weeks since that is what the TMT ones are. I showed how to make it a full 12 weeks (13 with a final recovery week) if you want to do that.

Maybe try doubles 2xs/wk for 2 wks before stepping it up. I don't know what your current level of fitness is. Are you using an existing TMT schedule or the mini-P90X that you are adding the Fat Burner to?

Happy 4th of July!
KPP!
Kurt
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
4/22/12 4:14 PM as a reply to yoga4myback.
OK, here it is. 2 schedules to ramp into INSANITY. The 1st one is patterned after the TBB Insanity/P90X hybrid schedule so its progressive into Insanity. The second is based on Insanity. It may seem brutal while you are doing it, but if you really go on to Insanity, you will EXPERIENCE why I did it this way. Again, I tried to hold true to the TMT 3 wo's at 10 minutes each= 1/2hour wo time, excluding warm-up/cool-down. If time is less than needed or if this schedule is too much to do back-to-back, then split them into AM/PM.

Or buy Insanity and use the Insanity month 1 as the month 2 in mini Insanity and weeks 9-12 in the mini hybrid. It'll save time and eliminate the disk changes. The Insanity month 1 wo's are 33-38 minutes long, including warm-up/cool-down. So, you're better off just doing Insanity month 1 as mini-Insanity month 2. But I didn't delete the TMT so you can string something together when you are extra short on time.

I will say it again, I believe I am supporting TMT by providing options for people who would like to move onto advanced programs, but still have the time constraint that made TMT their program of choice.

To do these programs you will need TMT, Deluxe (the disk that has Total Body 2, Core Cardio and Upper Body), One on One TMT, P90 Fat Burner Express, and Insanity's Fast'n'Furious and the TMT/OoO crusher pack. Insanity would be nice too. Who knows, someday you may actually have the time.

Schedule 1) Mini-P90X/Insanity hybrid
This is based on the TBB Insanity/P90X hybrid schedule. Do it as the 4 wk plan like the TMT schedules, or expand it to the full 12 wks like P90X. The recovery week becomes wks 4,8,and 13 for the 12 week option. Wk 1 is used for wks 1-3. Wk 2 is wks 5-7. Wk 3 is used for wks 9&11. Wk 4 is used for wks 10&12. 13 weeks? You will need a recovery week after this. In the TBB hybrid schedule weeks 9-12 use month 2 wo's. Thats why I added on to F'n'F. Insanity is everything you've heard about... and so much more!

WEEKS 1-3
ABS, Core, Chest and Back
Fast'n'Furious, Yoga
ABS, Core, Friday Night Arms
Cardio Intervals, Cardio, Yoga
ABS, Lower, Total Body 2
Fast'n'furious, Yoga
Yoga

WEEKS 5-7
ABS, Core, Upper Body
F'n'F, Cardio
ABS, Core, One on One Upper Body
Cardio Int., Cardio, Yoga
ABS, OoO Lower Body, TB2
F'n'F, Total Body 1
Yoga

WEEKS 9&11
ABS, Core, Chest & Back
F'n'F, Plyo Intervals, Cardio
ABS, Core, FNA
Cardio Int., Cardio, Yoga
F'n'F, Core, TB1
F'n'F, CP Legs, Cardio, ABS
Yoga

WEEKS 10&12
ABS, Core, Upper Body
F'n'F, Plyo Int. Cardio
ABS, Core, OoO Upper Body
Cardio Int.,Cardio, Yoga
F'n'F, Core, TB1
F'n'F, CP Legs, Cardio, ABS
Yoga

RECOVERY WEEK
Cardio Int.,Core Cardio, Yoga
Fat Burner, Total Body 1
Core, Cardio Int., Yoga
Fat Burner, ABS
Core cardio, Cardio Int., Total Body 1
Fat Burner, Total Body 1
Yoga

Schedule 2) Mini-Insanity

If you survived that, you are ready for Mini-Insanity. Anybody who did Insanity is welcome to criticize(TBB Staff, too), but this is a good way to really wake you up to what its like. Fast'n'Furious is a faster pace than the month 1 dvds, and doesn't let up until the cool-down. Each exercise is 1 minute. Do as many as you can do. Some days are better than others. Watch what you eat and when-you will pay for it or profit! This will take more than 1/2 hour. F'n'F is 22 minutes and the OoO dvds are over 15 minutes. If you can do these dvds back-to-back, then you are ready for Insanity. You will have the physical fitness and the time! You can split the workouts into AM/PM to fit your schedule/level of fitness.

Month 2 wo's of Insanity are longer and harder! Month 1 is just a warm up. The opening of the month 2 dvds exhaust you and and the rest push you well past anything you thought you could handle. The routines get easier as the dvd plays out, but since you are already exhausted it seems relentless. To simulate this in TMT wo's is a little rediculous. I tried anyway. I went with 3-4 wo's a day. To make it work time management-wise, split into AM/PM. If you already have Insanity, just use Insanity month 1 in place of my month 2. Its shorter.

In month 2 I used the TMT/OoO Crusher pack Legs routine. Its redundent in that its not much different from the other OoO Plyo/cardio routines. But Tony does add 2 new moves. Tony goes right into each exercise with very little pause. This is the intensity you need to get used to in Insanity.

If you have bad knees don't do a lower body/legs wo the day before or after Plyo. Substitue Cardio-NOT Cardio Interval-to take it easier and avoid overload injury.

Month 1
WEEK 1
F'n'F, Yoga
F'n'F, Plyo Intervals
F'n'F, ABS
Core cardio, Ooo Lower, Yoga
F'n'F, Cardio Intervals
F'n'F, Plyo
Yoga

WEEK 2
F'n'F, ABS
F'n'F, Cardio Intervals
F'n'F, Plyo
Core Cardio, Cardio Intervals, Yoga
F'n'F, ABS
F'n'F, Cardio Intervals
Yoga

WEEK 3
F'n'F, ABS
F'n'F, Plyo
F'n'F, Cardio Intervals
Core cardio, OoO Lower, Yoga
F'n'F, ABS
F'n'F,Plyo
Yoga

WEEK 4
F'n'F, Cardio Intervals
F'n'F, ABS
F'n'F, Plyo
Core Cardio, Cardio Intervals, Yoga
F'n'F, ABS
F'n'F, Plyo
Yoga

RECOVERY WEEK
Fat Burner
Fat Burner
Fat Burner
Fat Burner
Fat Burner
Fat Burner
Yoga

Month 2
week 1
F'n'F, Core, TB1
F'n'F, Plyo, Cardio
F'n'F, Cardio Int., Cardio
Lower body, TB1, Cardio Int, Yoga
F'n'F, Core, TB1
F'n'F, Plyo, Cardio
Yoga

Week 2
F'n'F, CP Legs, Cardio
F'n'F, Core, TB1
F'n'F, Plyo, Cardio
Cardio, TB1, OoO Lower, Yoga
F'n'F, CP Legs, Cardio, ABS
Fat Burner
Yoga

Week 3
F'n'F, Core, TB1
F'n'F, Plyo, Cardio
F'n'F, Cardio Int, Cardio, ABS
Lower, TB1, Cadio Int, Yoga
F'n'F, Core, TB1
Fat Burner
Yoga

Week 4
F'n'F, Plyo, Cardio,
F'n'F, Cardio Int, Cardio ,ABS
F'n'F, Core, TB1
Fat Burner
F'n'F, Plyo, Cardio
F'n'F, Cardio Int, Cardio, ABS
Yoga

Recovery same as month 1.

Believe it or not, I'm not insane.
KPP!
Kurt
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
7/21/11 4:15 PM as a reply to yoga4myback.
Kurt- thank you for posting this! I'm still working on getting all the moves down in the basic set of TMT, and will be purchasing the Deluxe kit soon, but it's always good to have a game plan of where to go!

Paula ~ FitnessPartner
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
8/5/11 5:37 PM as a reply to yoga4myback.
Thanks so much for putting together these additional schedules. I have completed one round of basic TMT, an accelerated round, and am finishing a second accelerated (with some OoO thrown in). My plan is to next try your Mini P90X shedule. Having these additional shedules makes it much more interesting, and as a result, I ammore likely to stay the course. Thanks!
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
9/6/11 7:11 PM as a reply to Philb.
what is Fat Burner?
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
9/28/11 5:06 PM as a reply to CraigCarr.
Fat burner is a 30+/- minute bonus workout on the TMT disk with Total Body, Lower Body,
and ABS. I think its available as an additional P90 master's series workout. Its pure cardio and it makes you SWEAT! Even Tony had to wipe his forehead. Its an interval workout that gets your whole body. You even have some resistance options.

I threw it in as the recovery week of mini insanity to get a good sweat but back off the intensity of Fast'n'Furious. I think it a nice fit for Mini P90X doubles. Its not easy, but it won't kill you either.

KPP!
Kurt
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10/14/11 3:55 AM as a reply to yoga4myback.
I'm liking this idea a lot, of creating a mini-P90X with these TMT routines. I have really ran short on time with my work schedule & sports coaching schedule, so these TMT routines fit in well with my overall plan.

I have actually combined them with another favorite workout tool, kettlebells. I do KB routines at least 2x a week, if not 3. I created a 6 days/week plan that does 2 TMT workouts 3x/week, then 2 KB workouts, with a 3rd one as an option of KB, TMT, or a short run on the weekend. I have had a lot of weekend VB tourneys so a short weekend workout fits well.

As a trainer/coach, I am trying to drum up more interest in TMT's routines by having my own contest for my clients. [Edited by John]

I love how most of the OoO series workouts are really mini-P90X routines, a lot of the exercises seem to be combo's or variations of stuff you'd most likely see in a P90X workout. Plyo intervals and Chest & Back are becoming some of my killer quick-workout favorites.

As another 'gem' add-on to my mix, I also found the Tony Horton One on One, Vol 2 edition of "10 Minute Crusher Pack". To my surprise, it came with a complimentary jump rope, as it had 3 more workouts on there: an ab routine (recommended to have pull up bar for this one!), a leg routine that's strength/plyo-ish, and a shadow boxing routine that incorporates the jump rope with it. I love the ab routine in it. This was only $15 as a TBB Coach, $20 for regular retail. Still, quite a good bargain for 3 additional routines to mix into your schedules & add to your overall library.

-Coach Rick Karboviak
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1/22/12 2:02 PM as a reply to ASAPTrainer.
Kurt,

I have read over these schedules and this is some pretty sound stuff! Since there is also a P90X/RevAbs hybrid, it'd be cool if you modelled something after that schedule using TMT, although I don't know if it's possible considering the only TMT ab workout is...well, ABS!!! Then again, there are two RevAbs workouts that are only 12-16 minutes (Mercy and Merciless Abs). Maybe, even though it violates the 10 minute rule, you could keep those in rotation?

At any rate, I think there might be a time when I give the P90X doubles and P90X/Insanity hybrid a try. Since I have now moved on to hybrids, I don't really want to drop back and ever do a program solo again...unless, of course, it's one I am doing for the first time. (For example, in a couple months I will buy Asylum and I plan on doing that solo the first time through. Same goes for P90X 2.) And Doubles may not be like a hybrid, but my workout schedule would be so busy that I clearly wouldn't have any time to fit another program in anyway! So it's going to be a while because I have quite a few hybrids planned to do. Currently I am doing P90X/P90X+. After that, the plan is as follows:

*P90X/Rev Abs
*P90X Classic Plus (not really a hybrid per se, but it is in a sense)
*P90X/Insanity/Rev Abs (created by someone in my upline)
*Asylum (solo...first time ever doing it)
*P90X/Asylum

After that last hybrid, I want to FINALLY get around to P90X 2. I'll be behind so many other people, but I don't care. All the extra rounds of P90X that I do via those hybrids will get me in that much better shape for it!

~~~Coach Steve
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2/7/12 2:33 PM as a reply to yoga4myback.
I don't have Rev Abs, but have considered a Mini-Rev Abs schedule. As you have observed there are only 2 wo's that would allow a 30 minute wo combined with TMT. Some Asylum wo's are about 30 minutes or less so that might have potential. It just won't be "Hotel Friendly" with the room required for the agility ladder. And I'd end up crushing a lot of door jambs with chin-up bar in the cheap motels I stay in. I haven't gotten tired of oogling Janie, but some other cardio wo's would be appreciated.

I'm now on week 6, day 1 of mini-P90X doubles. I'm pretty pleased with it so far. No, I'm not getting the same results as with P90X, but who expected that? The TMT/OoO wo's are some tough stuff! Not to be underestimated! If you can keep up with Tony, you are IN SHAPE! Especially Chest and Back! I'm also surprised how I'm still fading out at the end of TB2. Probably because I've just worked the upper body for 8 minutes with minimal break and now am on my back reaching up in the air making critical blood flow to my arms a challenge! I'm still using the basic maroon bands for all wo's. I think TBB calls it magenta and its rated at 20#s resistance.

I do all 3 wo's If I have the time. And the AM cardio gets skipped if I have to get going. I end up doing the wo's as scheduled about half the time. At least I'm working out consistently. I'm not losing any weight with this program. I'd like to get rid of my gut. But on my last round of Insanity, I started gaining weight- muscle weight! My arms, shoulders and legs are noticably gaining mass and definition. At 42, The gut will be stubburn. Its more proper nutrition than exercise. And learning to hold some core tension at all times.

KPP!
Kurt
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
2/19/12 5:14 PM as a reply to yoga4myback.
Hey everyone,

Kurt has put together an excellent schedule above. He asked me in another thread to give my opinion on the recovery weeks.

If it were me, I would just tweak them slightly.

P90X
RECOVERY WEEK
Cardio Intervals, Cardio, Yoga
Fat Burner
Cardio Intervals, Core Cardio, Cardio
Cardio, Core Cardio, Yoga
Fat Burner
Cardio Intervals, Cardio (add)Core Cardio, Yoga
Yoga

*I would use the allotted time for cardio toward extra yoga or stretching, or foam rolling. On a Classic P90X schedule you do Yoga or stretching without added cardio, and work your core twice.

Insanity
RECOVERY WEEK
Cardio Int.,Core Cardio, Yoga
Fat Burner, Total Body 1
Core, Cardio Int., Yoga
Fat Burner, ABS
Core cardio, Cardio Int., Total Body 1
Fat Burner, Total Body 1
Yoga

* I would just eliminate ABS there and give the body a little break from the ab workout it is used to doing. Then pick back up with the Isolated ab workouts after you are recovered.

It's all a matter of preference. If you are craving extra cardio, you may want to keep it. Do what works for you.

-Glen
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2/20/12 8:05 AM as a reply to yoga4myback.
yoga4myback:
I don't have Rev Abs, but have considered a Mini-Rev Abs schedule. As you have observed there are only 2 wo's that would allow a 30 minute wo combined with TMT. Some Asylum wo's are about 30 minutes or less so that might have potential. It just won't be "Hotel Friendly" with the room required for the agility ladder. And I'd end up crushing a lot of door jambs with chin-up bar in the cheap motels I stay in. I haven't gotten tired of oogling Janie, but some other cardio wo's would be appreciated.

I'm now on week 6, day 1 of mini-P90X doubles. I'm pretty pleased with it so far. No, I'm not getting the same results as with P90X, but who expected that? The TMT/OoO wo's are some tough stuff! Not to be underestimated! If you can keep up with Tony, you are IN SHAPE! Especially Chest and Back! I'm also surprised how I'm still fading out at the end of TB2. Probably because I've just worked the upper body for 8 minutes with minimal break and now am on my back reaching up in the air making critical blood flow to my arms a challenge! I'm still using the basic maroon bands for all wo's. I think TBB calls it magenta and its rated at 20#s resistance.

I do all 3 wo's If I have the time. And the AM cardio gets skipped if I have to get going. I end up doing the wo's as scheduled about half the time. At least I'm working out consistently. I'm not losing any weight with this program. I'd like to get rid of my gut. But on my last round of Insanity, I started gaining weight- muscle weight! My arms, shoulders and legs are noticably gaining mass and definition. At 42, The gut will be stubburn. Its more proper nutrition than exercise. And learning to hold some core tension at all times.

KPP!
Kurt


Kurt,

I definitely suggest Rev Abs. Granted it isn't as tough if you are just coming off Insanity (which I was when I did my first round last summer), but it is a fun time, and the moves aren't that hard to follow...mainly because Brett repeats a lot. In fact, that is the only complaint I have about the program: not enough of a variety of moves can lead to a very boring hour-long workout. Still, what you do is take the time to sit down and maybe replace a few of the repeated moves to avoid boredom!

~~~Coach Steve
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
2/20/12 9:19 AM as a reply to yoga4myback.
Kurt, since you have yoga in your screen name and you have told me you like yoga I thought you might want to check out my post in the "suggestion box".

It's my mini-campaign to get a full yoga workout system at Beachbody:

Yoga Workouts "Click thumbs up if you agree."http://www.teambeachbody.com/connect/message-boards/-/message_boards/message/159275929

Would love to see your's, and anyone else's comments there.

-Glen
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
7/8/12 2:34 PM as a reply to GlenG.
WCman100 asked about a "mini"P90X/Rev Abs hybrid. Mini-Insanity has up to 5 wo's in a row, using wo's 45 minutes long is shorter. Looks like this is another wo program for when the kids are in school, its the off season at work, when you consistently have a little more time.

7-8-12 edit. You can do this as is or you can do the wo's in () for the convenience of no disk changes. The family of RevAbs and its hybrids are not for building bulk. There's A LOT of cardio in them so its more for slimming down, building endurance and a ROCK SOLID CORE!

WEEKS 1-3
TMT ABS, Core, OoO Chest & Back
Fire up your Abs
TMT ABS, Core, Friday Night Arms
Rev it up cardio
TMT ABS, Lower Body,Total Body 2 (UML)
Power Int.1
Yoga (PHH Stretch)

WEEKS 5-6
Core, Cardio, Upper Body
Fire up your abs, Mercy abs
Core,Cardio, OoO Upper
Rev it up cardio, Mercy abs
Cardio, OoO Lower, TB2 (UML)
Power Int. 1, Mercy abs
yoga (PHH Stretch)

WEEK 7
Mercy Abs, Core, Upper
Fat burning Abs, Mercy Abs
Core,Cardio,OoO Upper
Rev it up cardio,Mercy abs
Cardio, OoO Lower, TB2 (UML)
Power Int. 2, Merciless abs
Yoga (PHH Stretch)

WEEKS 9&11
TMT abs, Core, Chest & Back
Fat burning abs
TMT ABS, Core, FNA
Rev it up cardio
TMT ABS, Crusher pack Legs, TB2 (UML)
Power Int.2
Yoga (PHH Stretch)

WEEKS 10&12
Core, Cardio, Upper
Fat burning abs, Merciless abs
Core, Cardio, OoO Upper
Rev it up cardio, Merciless abs
Cardio, OoO Lower, TB2 (UML)
Power Int.2, Merciless abs
Yoga (PHH Stretch)

Recovery, WEEKS 4,8 & 13
Cardio, Yoga (Patience Hummingbird)
Core, Cardio, Yoga (PHH Abs)
Fat Burner (PHH Stretch)
Rev it up cardio
Core, Cardio, Yoga (PHH Abs)
Cardio, Yoga (Patience Hummingbird)
Rest (PHH Stretch)
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
2/24/12 1:19 PM as a reply to yoga4myback.
Wow. What a mix-up of ab workouts! That looks like it will sculpt any midsection.
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RE: TMT doubles, mini-P90X
2/25/12 4:51 PM as a reply to GlenG.
Yeah, that does look like an intense ab wo!

I'm thinking of getting Rev Abs deluxe and doing that after mini-P90X. I like to do the programs a hybrid is based on before the hybrid. Thats the suggestion of TBB and many people on the forums. It will also give me a better idea of how to really make a "mini" revabs and hybrid. most Rev Abs wo's are 30 minutes and less. That gives it the potential to make a true mini out (no more than 30 minute wo time/day) of it. Rev Abs also has a 20 minute 4X4 wo. Its like fast and furious is to Insanity. I'd like to see where to best slot that into a mini.

Am I making these minis for me or is this a legitimate service to the TMT community?

KPP!
Kurt
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