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1/3/12 4:58 PM
Ok, so I have been trying to find a solid answer as to the appropriate way of combining the 2 (weight lifting and Insanity) before I begin.

Currently, I am in bulking mode - and yes, I understand many say you cannot lose BF while bulking...I call BS. Is it easy? No. Is it possible? Yes.

I am too much of a gym rat to sacrifice weight lifting while doing Insanity - and I find it very hard to believe that there isn't a perfectly combined way to use Insanity WHILE training to bulk up and gain lean mass...(Insanity 3x a week, weights 3x a week?)

If someone (preferably someone who has done Insanity while bulking up) can give any advice or any personal testimony (pics?) - I would greatly appreciate it.

I would like to know any strength gains made at the gym WHILE doing Insanity - as well as any BF % loss.
I don't want to offend anyone - but if you are new to working out, your opinion does not hold water with me. I want to hear from long time weight lifting advocates who are as serious as I am about gaining mass - while doing Insanity to lower BF%.

Please no P90X recommendations - that's too much fluff for me. I want to still hit the gym hardcore at LEAST 3x a week (obviously dropping legs from routine due to the Insanity workouts...I've read that's a good idea haha).

Anyways, I appreciate any input and look forward to having my questions answered.

Thanks,

FMR
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/4/12 9:51 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
Based upon your criteria, my opinion probably won't hold water but here are my thoughts anyway. Do the schedule you propose with Insanity 3 days per week and weightlifting 3 days per week. Basically in the first 4 weeks, you would do Cardio Circuit, Cardio Power & Resistance & Pure Cardio. Week 5 would be Pure Cardio & Balance 3 times. Weeks 6-9 would be Max Interval Circuit, Max Interval Plyo, & Max Cardio Conditioning.

Since you are wanting to gain mass, I would assume that you are lifting big and that you are eating big. After the 1st week of the program and then again after Week 6 (the workouts get longer and more difficult in Month 2), really assess that you are getting enought calories in order to gain mass. These workouts burn a lot of calories so you definately don't want to get into a calorie deficit. Finally, you'll notice that you will be cutting out the recovery days. Shaun T's recovery days are not what you typically think as recovery. These workouts are done at a slower pace, include a lot stretching but also include a lot of strength work. The recovery workouts are definately no day off. Since you are cutting these, make sure you get in some extra stretching and you may want to run through these workouts once just to see if you should include them somewhere in your routine.

Good luck!

Derek
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
building mass while doing insanity
1/4/12 6:19 PM as a reply to DerekLS.
Actually, your opinion sounds solid to me - and I appreciate your reply bud...thanks!

Here is what I think (based on personal past experiments with similar programs).

:::Based on what I have read about Insanity - same rules apply. Please keep in mind until I myself test this out with Insanity, I shall call this theory - despite the fact I have followed similar cardio routines with great success along side my mass routines:::

Incorporating the Insanity workout with your weightlifting routine has potential to be extremely beneficial - assuming you do it correctly.
What do I mean by that? Simple.
As everyone knows, 'bodybuilding' isnt finished when you rack the weights and head home...no, thats just the beginning. Bodybuilding mainly takes place in the kitchen. I wont ramble on because I am sure that everyone knows the ins and outs of what happens to muscles, why it happens and when and how they grow (through over-compensation). I will cut this short and if anyone has any additional questions regarding how these conclusions were met - please feel free to respond here and I will answer.

So anyways, before I get even more off track...to successfully incorporate Insanity into your bodybuilding (mass) routine you need to look at the big picture.

How are you training? You should get on a 4 day split. Anything other than this will be pushing a limit that unless you are on significant 'supplements' you do not want to go there. Heavy training? Perfect! Thats more of an ideal workout routine than lighter weights with more reps - considering the amount of cardio your body will be enduring.

I have seen people suggest eliminating legs from your workout routine. Not sure how I feel about this...this is more of a 'case by case' sort of deal.
IMHO, if you are an avid weightlifter (not someone who hits the gym lackadaisically...I mean serious lifter) then keep legs in your routine, but do not train them as you normally would. Keep it heavy - but limit the sets per exercise to 3 with no more than 4 different exercises (my last cardio routine I followed killed legs and from what I have heard from friends, this is very similar).
If you are not a serious lifter or are newer - please remove legs from your routine (and possibly even shoulders) to prevent possible injury.
Thats it for the gym part. Simple huh?

While combining Insanity with your mass building routine may seem contradictory to some, your diet is what will make or break it.
Diet? What?!
Yes, your diet is what will determine what results you get from combining the 2 together.
What you first need to do is calculate the average calories burned a day (off days and gym days).
Once you know what your caloric intake must be to MAINTAIN your current weight - the fun begins.
Since I would assume your idea is to lower BF% while gaining mass - you will be walking a very tight rope (your caloric intake may teeter on a tolerance of +/ 100 calories).
What? Thats just ridiculous!
Let me explain.
It has been common practice (at least everywhere Ive trained) to exceed your caloric intake up to 700 calories a day to give your body enough to re-build with. This kind of thinking will not only give you enough to build muscle mass with, but it will also increase the oh so attractive flub along your mid section. Why? Heres why.
There are only 600 calories per lb of muscle vs 3,500 calories per lb of fat.
So assuming you eat 700 extra calories a day that comes out to 4,900 extra calories a week.
Unless you think you can build just over 8 lbs of sheer muscle per weak - the rest goes you know where.

To correctly calculate what your caloric intake needs to be - you need to find your correct RMR (please visit http://www.musclehack.com/the-new-bodybuilding-diet-glad/ for the formulas). I cant find the site I previously used while constructing my diet around my cardio/mass routine - but this one is very similar. Apparently this means I didnt care about my past records of sources very much haha.

Incorporating Insanity into this mix you need to factor in the amount of calories burned during each session (some people prefer the heart rate monitors showing an estimated 'calories burned').
You will need to compensate for the calories burned to enable your body to build mass without depletion.
I wont go into specifics here as it takes too much time to explain my method and reasoning behind it. Basically you must add 100 calories to the calories burned, but make sure they are 'clean calories' coming from a good protein meal, low fat and little to no carbs.
Example: if you burned 1,000 calories in your Insanity session - you must eat 1,100 clean calories EXTRA that day.
I am sure this may not make sense or even seem like a sound method - but this method has worked for me in the past with a very intense cardio workout I previously followed 5 days a week along side my mass routine (4 days a week). I made significant gains in mass as well as dropping to 10% BF (down from 15%). I stopped training completely for about a year and now I will test this theory against the infamous Insanity.

To conclude, this is ALL theory as I have not physically done Insanity yet (still waiting for it to arrive). All the above information is based on my past experience with a similar cardio routine (obnoxiously intense) with a serious mass routine.

I will say one more thing though - not everyone is equal. A buddy of mine could only do 3 days a week (cardio with me) with a 4 day a week mass routine. Take it for what it is - and I am more than welcome to a combative comment testing my method lol.

I look forward to beginning my Insanity adventure - and I will definitely update this thread with progress, diet etc...

Hope someone finds this informative - and if someone has anything to add (or criticize) I would appreciate the input.

Thanks again Derek,

FMR
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/5/12 6:01 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
I think you've nailed it. Include pics and measurements as you go along. Good luck guy and can't wait to hear about your results.
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/6/12 10:03 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
FearMyRage:
Ok, so I have been trying to find a solid answer as to the appropriate way of combining the 2 (weight lifting and Insanity) before I begin.

Currently, I am in bulking mode - and yes, I understand many say you cannot lose BF while bulking...I call BS. Is it easy? No. Is it possible? Yes.

I am too much of a gym rat to sacrifice weight lifting while doing Insanity - and I find it very hard to believe that there isn't a perfectly combined way to use Insanity WHILE training to bulk up and gain lean mass...(Insanity 3x a week, weights 3x a week?)

If someone (preferably someone who has done Insanity while bulking up) can give any advice or any personal testimony (pics?) - I would greatly appreciate it.

I would like to know any strength gains made at the gym WHILE doing Insanity - as well as any BF % loss.
I don't want to offend anyone - but if you are new to working out, your opinion does not hold water with me. I want to hear from long time weight lifting advocates who are as serious as I am about gaining mass - while doing Insanity to lower BF%.

Please no P90X recommendations - that's too much fluff for me. I want to still hit the gym hardcore at LEAST 3x a week (obviously dropping legs from routine due to the Insanity workouts...I've read that's a good idea haha).

Anyways, I appreciate any input and look forward to having my questions answered.

Thanks,

FMR


Not sure what you want as an answer as it seems as if you already have it. I don't understand the concept of bulking to gain mass which is old school and doing all that extra stuff that is focused on fat loss.

Can you gain muscle and lose fat at same time? Well depends on what same time means and its not that easy to do based on the requirements of calories for both.

You would really need to know what you are doing calorie wise and have lots of patience.

Focus on one or the other. You don't really see anyone who's goal is mass doing Insanity or heavy cardio based workouts.
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/7/12 8:18 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
Actually, I know several people who are in bulk mode who do 1hr of cardio twice a day 7 days a week. I also have found a few who use the insanity program (beginning to end) as their cardio program throughout bulking cycles.

Bulking old school? Not sure what ya meant there.

I appreciate the input and I will be posting pics, weights (gym and body) and strength gains (or loss). I will also document my diet and any caloric changes I make.

Johncab- I do not believe its all that impossible. The two do. It counter act each other when a balance is formed (as you mentioned calories).
The problem I believe is people overlook the point of caloric adjustments, what foods they are getting the calories from and when they are eating them.

I really appreciate the input from you both.
My Insanity has just arrived - so keep an eye out for all my updates.
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1/7/12 8:56 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
FearMyRage:
Actually, I know several people who are in bulk mode who do 1hr of cardio twice a day 7 days a week. I also have found a few who use the insanity program (beginning to end) as their cardio program throughout bulking cycles.

Bulking old school? Not sure what ya meant there.

I appreciate the input and I will be posting pics, weights (gym and body) and strength gains (or loss). I will also document my diet and any caloric changes I make.

Johncab- I do not believe its all that impossible. The two do. It counter act each other when a balance is formed (as you mentioned calories).
The problem I believe is people overlook the point of caloric adjustments, what foods they are getting the calories from and when they are eating them.

I really appreciate the input from you both.
My Insanity has just arrived - so keep an eye out for all my updates.


Old school meaning what most bodybuilders use to do to gain mass which involves eating a lot to gain weight but issue with that is that a large portion of the gain is FAT. You would do well if you gained at a 1:1 ratio. Eating a lot does not translate into faster muscle gains but def equals faster fat gains. There is no faster way to gain muscle and if you have already been lifting beyond one year your gains will be even slower and less then the first year. This of course eliminates any juvenile gains, muscle memory, creatine or first year of hypertrophy training. Average muscle gain in first year is roughly 24 lbs barring what I just mentioned.

Losing fat requires being in a deficit and gaining lean mass requires a surplus. During bulking you are definitely in a surplus so losing fat will not happen as long as that happens. I don't know of anyone who is trying to gain muscle who is doing a lot of cardio or unnecessary extra work which only stresses the body and taxes recovery.

As I said both won't happen at same time and you really need a good understanding of nutrition and calorie cycling and again patience. Also things get a bit complicated depending on what body fat level you are starting your bulk.

Also you are looking at food as if there is something magical or special which it's not and all that meal timing is not as important as we are led to believe as long as your calories and macros are met.
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1/7/12 9:38 AM as a reply to JCFitCoach.
Um....that's sort of contradictory. If eating a surplus (no matter who you do it) makes you gain fat as well - then its not lean mass.
I agree with not eating certain things late in the day. Like carbs. No matter how you cut it - a bulk of carbs are best kept for the morning.
I have nothing to lose since its been forever since I've been serious about my routine. Ive lost all my size and strength - so all I can do is go in the right direction.

I understand the common logic of calorie deficit - I'm not stupid.
All I'm trying to say is I've known many people who do it. So apparently science can't be as sound as we are 'led to believe'.
The idealology is against the normal practice - ill give ya that. However, me putting this to the test can be our experiment.

Edit: I did not mean to come across rude. I apologize.
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/7/12 1:48 PM as a reply to FearMyRage.
My coach gained 10 pounds of muscle mass while maintaining his body fat % after doing 2 rounds of Asylum (no other weight lifting). He watched his calories very carefully. That's extremely hard to do but if you track your stuff daily it can be done.
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/8/12 8:45 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
FearMyRage:
Um....that's sort of contradictory. If eating a surplus (no matter who you do it) makes you gain fat as well - then its not lean mass.
I agree with not eating certain things late in the day. Like carbs. No matter how you cut it - a bulk of carbs are best kept for the morning.
I have nothing to lose since its been forever since I've been serious about my routine. Ive lost all my size and strength - so all I can do is go in the right direction.

I understand the common logic of calorie deficit - I'm not stupid.
All I'm trying to say is I've known many people who do it. So apparently science can't be as sound as we are 'led to believe'.
The idealology is against the normal practice - ill give ya that. However, me putting this to the test can be our experiment.

Edit: I did not mean to come across rude. I apologize.


No need to apologize and I don't think you are being rude. Eating at a huge surplus is where you will gain a greater amount of fat versus a smaller surplus of say 200-300 calories. If you are gaining more than say 1 lb a week then you are gaining a higher percentage of fat. Studies are not the gospel but they do give us a basis of what can and can not happen.

Gaining lean mass is a slow process and at best 1-2 lbs a month is the norm for the majority of first time trainees to weight lifting.

I think experimenting with your body is the best approach. Try different things and gauge your results.
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/8/12 8:55 AM as a reply to Jacob83.
Jacob83:
My coach gained 10 pounds of muscle mass while maintaining his body fat % after doing 2 rounds of Asylum (no other weight lifting). He watched his calories very carefully. That's extremely hard to do but if you track your stuff daily it can be done.


That is a very impressive feat to accomplish without doing any weights. It's not impossible depending on starting point or previous lean mass level as muscle memory can play a big part.

Have not seen Asylum so not sure if their is any weight/resistance training.
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/8/12 11:33 AM as a reply to JCFitCoach.
I guess I didn't explain what I meant very well (I re-read my second post and confused myself).
Eating at a surplus 4 days of the week (while weight training) and eating 3x a week as cutting (the gym off days) will work.
Slower process, but you will cut up while bulking up.

I have not looked into Asylum - I can't even offer an opinion on that.
What was your coaches bf%? What kind of gains were made?
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/8/12 11:38 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
Crap- I'm on my iPhone and somehow I missed your original reply to my last post.
I will experiment - I'll keep you all updated (can't report now since its only a couple days into the whole ordeal).
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/8/12 4:18 PM as a reply to FearMyRage.
FearMyRage:

I guess I didn't explain what I meant very well (I re-read my second post and confused myself).
Eating at a surplus 4 days of the week (while weight training) and eating 3x a week as cutting (the gym off days) will work.
Slower process, but you will cut up while bulking up.

I have not looked into Asylum - I can't even offer an opinion on that.
What was your coaches bf%? What kind of gains were made?


Well you are not cutting while bulking but are in reality doing a mini cut/bulk in same week. 4 days at surplus(bulk) and 3 days at a deficit(cut). I can live with that but the progress as I said will be slower.

Keep in mind that gaining muscle will happen during the days you are recovering and not at the same day. The process starts after a workout and continues into the next 24-48 hours and sometimes even longer depending on workout so during that time you might be at a deficit and thus hamper things.

All I can say is try it and keep a close eye on results.
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1/9/12 5:50 AM as a reply to JCFitCoach.
I'll still do insanity 6x a week, but my diet will be different on those 4 weight training days.
I'll move the diet days 1 day out so I have a 24hr overlap then.
What do you think about that?
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/9/12 9:35 AM as a reply to FearMyRage.
FearMyRage:
I'll still do insanity 6x a week, but my diet will be different on those 4 weight training days.
I'll move the diet days 1 day out so I have a 24hr overlap then.
What do you think about that?


Doing Insanity 6X a week while trying to build muscle is seriously flawed in my book. That is not how muscle is build. No one that I know that wants to build muscle does all that extra cardio/endurance work. Your focus is all wrong and you may end up losing muscle.
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1/9/12 4:31 PM as a reply to JCFitCoach.
let me get your opinion on something...here is an excerpt of something I found:

"First one universal rule: muscles don't need calories to grow they need calories to function.

The muscles need calories to move. So if you are short in your caloric intake than fat will be used for fuel. If you don't have enough fat than you need more caloric intake. This is why it is very important to have a nice meal with carbs, protein and little fat before an intense workout to have the energy at the ready to help lift more and harder. That is it for calories.
As explained earlier, the TDEE will increase as you increase your activities. So technically yes, a person needs more calories if they do not want to loose fat if they are ADDING activities. But eating over your TDEE is not required. But as the body mass increases the TDEE will increase also.

Now for the muscles to grow/rebuild they need nutrients, protein and some carbs, but not for the calories. So some people who eat garbage need to eat more to get the nutrients they need from the food, or must use a lot of supplements (vitamins, minerals, etc..) to get the nutrients required for muscle fibre recovery. If a person ate a clean diet and paid attention to a balance of food all the nutrients required would come from the food and the person would not need to over eat (eat more than your TDEE). Plain and simple.

I think people just simply prefer not to pay attention and eat without thinking too much. This is a problem in that they can either over eat, under eat, or miss plenty of nutrients. People also want to see results and gainning mass via fat seems like fast results (which comes when eating this magical "surplus" so commonly followed). Later they have to cut (loose fat) and they go "wow, I gain lots of muscles". Ya well, you would have also seen it if the fat was not hiding it."


Seems pretty sound to me, and actually supports my theory.
Getting the nutrients should be all that's required...NOT a surplus of food.
I found similar articles talking about recovery time, the nutrients that should be consumed within that time as well as other information.
I know this theory and practice is against the norm - but I just have a hard time believing that you cannot shed fat, do cardio and gain mass.
I am not doing the cardio to necessarily "lose fat" - although that is a plus side (I do want to get back to being cut like I was previously). But I am also doing the cardio for overall health.

I dont see why doing this is so detrimental to the gym, mass routines or anything pertaining to muscle growth. Yes, you are burning calories. No, you dont need to go into a calorie deficit - but if you are eating enough food (fuel) and get all the nutrients your muscles require to rebuild and grow then theoretically its a thumbs up.

I dont want to turn this into an argument, so if I come across as I am becoming argumentative - I apologize.
I just know this is a widely searched topic and no real answers have been given with a solid bases one way or the other.
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1/10/12 2:33 PM as a reply to FearMyRage.
FearMyRage:
let me get your opinion on something...here is an excerpt of something I found:

"First one universal rule: muscles don't need calories to grow they need calories to function.

The muscles need calories to move. So if you are short in your caloric intake than fat will be used for fuel. If you don't have enough fat than you need more caloric intake. This is why it is very important to have a nice meal with carbs, protein and little fat before an intense workout to have the energy at the ready to help lift more and harder. That is it for calories.
As explained earlier, the TDEE will increase as you increase your activities. So technically yes, a person needs more calories if they do not want to loose fat if they are ADDING activities. But eating over your TDEE is not required. But as the body mass increases the TDEE will increase also.

Now for the muscles to grow/rebuild they need nutrients, protein and some carbs, but not for the calories. So some people who eat garbage need to eat more to get the nutrients they need from the food, or must use a lot of supplements (vitamins, minerals, etc..) to get the nutrients required for muscle fibre recovery. If a person ate a clean diet and paid attention to a balance of food all the nutrients required would come from the food and the person would not need to over eat (eat more than your TDEE). Plain and simple.

I think people just simply prefer not to pay attention and eat without thinking too much. This is a problem in that they can either over eat, under eat, or miss plenty of nutrients. People also want to see results and gainning mass via fat seems like fast results (which comes when eating this magical "surplus" so commonly followed). Later they have to cut (loose fat) and they go "wow, I gain lots of muscles". Ya well, you would have also seen it if the fat was not hiding it."


Seems pretty sound to me, and actually supports my theory.
Getting the nutrients should be all that's required...NOT a surplus of food.
I found similar articles talking about recovery time, the nutrients that should be consumed within that time as well as other information.
I know this theory and practice is against the norm - but I just have a hard time believing that you cannot shed fat, do cardio and gain mass.
I am not doing the cardio to necessarily "lose fat" - although that is a plus side (I do want to get back to being cut like I was previously). But I am also doing the cardio for overall health.

I dont see why doing this is so detrimental to the gym, mass routines or anything pertaining to muscle growth. Yes, you are burning calories. No, you dont need to go into a calorie deficit - but if you are eating enough food (fuel) and get all the nutrients your muscles require to rebuild and grow then theoretically its a thumbs up.

I dont want to turn this into an argument, so if I come across as I am becoming argumentative - I apologize.
I just know this is a widely searched topic and no real answers have been given with a solid bases one way or the other.


Not sure were you information is coming from but during my 10 years bodybuilding I have yet to see anyone trying to do what you are doing.

All I can say is good luck. Let us know how it goes.
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1/13/13 11:16 AM as a reply to JCFitCoach.
I'm not exactly sure if this is a good place for this question but maybe.....anyways

I'm hoping to do/ stick to insanity as close to "the way you're supposed to" as possible, and maybe lift weight 2x a week. Not to "bulk" as much as to maintain some muscle size and shape as the Insanity drops my weight and bf% Does this sound reasonable. I already intend to get alot of my cals and prot. from whey and fish. So in closing I guess I'm saying I wanna rip up, but not get skinny I'm 5'10 205 Bf% 20's now and I think (not sure how I'll look) get to maybe 185-190 bf under 11% and keep a little muscle size. What do you guys think? Thanks for your time
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RE: Insanity w/weight lifting
1/14/13 11:57 AM as a reply to JCFitCoach.
JCFitCoach:
FearMyRage:
let me get your opinion on something...here is an excerpt of something I found:

"First one universal rule: muscles don't need calories to grow they need calories to function.

The muscles need calories to move. So if you are short in your caloric intake than fat will be used for fuel. If you don't have enough fat than you need more caloric intake. This is why it is very important to have a nice meal with carbs, protein and little fat before an intense workout to have the energy at the ready to help lift more and harder. That is it for calories.
As explained earlier, the TDEE will increase as you increase your activities. So technically yes, a person needs more calories if they do not want to loose fat if they are ADDING activities. But eating over your TDEE is not required. But as the body mass increases the TDEE will increase also.

Now for the muscles to grow/rebuild they need nutrients, protein and some carbs, but not for the calories. So some people who eat garbage need to eat more to get the nutrients they need from the food, or must use a lot of supplements (vitamins, minerals, etc..) to get the nutrients required for muscle fibre recovery. If a person ate a clean diet and paid attention to a balance of food all the nutrients required would come from the food and the person would not need to over eat (eat more than your TDEE). Plain and simple.

I think people just simply prefer not to pay attention and eat without thinking too much. This is a problem in that they can either over eat, under eat, or miss plenty of nutrients. People also want to see results and gainning mass via fat seems like fast results (which comes when eating this magical "surplus" so commonly followed). Later they have to cut (loose fat) and they go "wow, I gain lots of muscles". Ya well, you would have also seen it if the fat was not hiding it."


Seems pretty sound to me, and actually supports my theory.
Getting the nutrients should be all that's required...NOT a surplus of food.
I found similar articles talking about recovery time, the nutrients that should be consumed within that time as well as other information.
I know this theory and practice is against the norm - but I just have a hard time believing that you cannot shed fat, do cardio and gain mass.
I am not doing the cardio to necessarily "lose fat" - although that is a plus side (I do want to get back to being cut like I was previously). But I am also doing the cardio for overall health.

I dont see why doing this is so detrimental to the gym, mass routines or anything pertaining to muscle growth. Yes, you are burning calories. No, you dont need to go into a calorie deficit - but if you are eating enough food (fuel) and get all the nutrients your muscles require to rebuild and grow then theoretically its a thumbs up.

I dont want to turn this into an argument, so if I come across as I am becoming argumentative - I apologize.
I just know this is a widely searched topic and no real answers have been given with a solid bases one way or the other.


Not sure were you information is coming from but during my 10 years bodybuilding I have yet to see anyone trying to do what you are doing.

All I can say is good luck. Let us know how it goes.


I've got to agree with John here...focus on weight training or Insanity, not both, or you'll be working against both goals. This is what Steve Edwards calls "periodization"...he talks about it often on his blog.
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