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2/20/12 5:37 PM
I'm on my third week of P90X and am having trouble getting through the Yoga. Not because it is too hard however, but because personally I just cannot get myself motivated or into Yoga. I was wondering if anyone else felt this way and substituted another workout on Yoga days, and if so, what recommendations you may have.

I am not knocking the Yoga in anyway, and I know you will say that it is part of the program for a reason, however, I just do not want to get to the point where I am so unmotivated for that day because I dislike it so much. I'd rather switch out before it gets to that point but continue a hard routine. Any suggestions? Thanks!!
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2/20/12 6:41 PM as a reply to Piker22.
I've always thought of yoga as quit intimidating. You could try to do his fountain of youth yoga from the one on one series. It's a bit shorter. That might help a little.
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2/20/12 7:15 PM as a reply to slowpoke69.
I encourage you to stick with the yoga! I see that you understand its important but its also showing you how to stick with something if it is something you can't see yourself liking or sticking with it! You don't wanna drop yoga just yet wait untill either your completed your first round of p90x or till you have exhausted the yoga till you can't stand it!
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2/21/12 11:07 AM as a reply to Piker22.
Hi Piker! I am in Week 4 of P90X (just one week ahead of you) and feeling the same way! I dread Yoga X like the plague. I love all the other workouts except for this one. I considered posting a forum just like you did about an alternative. However, the more I research I do and look for feedback, I'm realizing that it's best if I just push through it. Yoga is really good for us, apparently! My husband HATES it. I enjoy the stretching. I just hate the salutations, cobra and downward dogs. Ugh! You are really gonna hate week 4 cause you have to do Yoga twice! emoticonYou can do it! You will feel so much better afterward.
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3/2/12 9:13 AM as a reply to Piker22.
I find it challenging also, but have stuck with it for 3 weeks. I can see how some of the moves and stretches in the Yoga translates to helping with parts of Ab Ripper X and other workout exercises, so it's good to keep up with. It can feel boring to some because it's not quite as intense in terms of cardio/bodybuilding. The hour and a half seems like a bit much, but it's not too bad once you get used to it.
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3/4/12 1:24 PM as a reply to Piker22.
Just do the first 49 minutes (from 1:32 to 0:43)


Once you get used to that, tack on some stretches and the ab stuff (from 0:23 to 0:05)


This is a great way to get all the "good" stuff and keep it under 1:10 (which is shorter than the days when you do something like Chest & Back + Ab Ripper X !!)


Or, you could try doing "Fountain of Youth" Yoga from the P90X One-on-One series (Volume 1 Disc 6). Check out the reviews for One-on-One HERE.
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3/4/12 2:38 PM as a reply to Piker22.
this is a post i put on another board, but hopefully it is helpful!!

For most of America, yoga can seem very "backwards". It's not based on hardcore cardio or resistance. It can seem intimidating if you aren't used to it. I'm a yoga instructor and have spent the last 4 years teaching people how yoga can supplement your workouts if you give it time. Here are my beginner tips:

1. Don't push it. Some of the people in the video are very flexible, and they are NOT BEGINNERS. I tell people in my classes not to try to look like I do. I've been doing yoga for 6 years and dancing since I was old enough to walk. Do what you can do. Get a good stretch but don't pull anything. That's counterproductive. What you can do varies on how sore you are too, so one week can be different from another.
2. Give it time. Don't give up if you aren't flexible or don't get it right away. This applies more to men who can hardly touch their toes. Flexibility is key to range of motion and helps immensely in working out your upper body. Get a yoga block and strap to get into some of the poses that seem a little tougher. Over time, you will rely on them less and less.
3. This routine is LONG. I teach mostly 1 hour classes. Rarely do I teach 90 minutes, and when I do, it's for seasoned yogis. Take breaks and skip a few repeat routines if you need to. Just make sure to do both sides or you may be sore in the right quad and not in the left. The last 20-30 minutes are deep stretches designed to increase flexibility, so don't do them cold, and don't skip them. Over time, as you get more flexible, you will learn to love to stretch.
4. Yoga is as much for your mind as it is for your body. You need to take the break from hardcore pushups and curls to chill. Yoga is also very connected to the breath and is meant as a detox for the body and mind. 5000 years ago, yogis in India did it daily and lived to be 90 years old. If you can, take a live class on yoga days. It's nice to have a live instructor, as well as a variety in teaching styles and poses/sequences.

Try to enjoy your yoga days and don't sub cardio...they put yogaX in for a reason!!

Feel free to message me with questions!!

<3 nina
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5/8/12 11:22 AM as a reply to Piker22.
I get so frustrated because my gut gets in the way when I do yoga and my feet hurt bad.....it like pins and needles like when your foot falls asleep, but way more intense.
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11/3/12 7:57 PM as a reply to jillianpj.
I was recommended the Fountain of Youth YOGA workout to substitute for the Yoga X, but a BB staff member replied on another thread that the workout is only SHORTER, NOT less difficult.

I am 310 lbs doing P90X with the same resolve to get fit as some of those Infomercial 'stars' like TOMMY M, and JEREMY Y. who both had over 150 lbs to shed. [I wish I could find a way to contact them and ask them HOW they got thru Yoga X]

In any event, while the rest of the X is okay and I'm doing great, the YOGA is just like a big brick wall for me. I have PP on this workout now for 6 weeks, and STILL cannot get past the first set of Crescents, which is only about 16 mins into the workout. I currently don't apparently have the stamina in my arms and shoulders to do the 'Dogs', up and down. My belly is waaay too big to jump up into Runners pose from plank. I have to stand up and re-position myself each time to get into Runners pose. I'm exhausted by that time.

The BB staff person said to come on here and ask if anyone knows of any OTHER Yoga dvd's that I could substitute at least until P90X starts to show its effects on my weight and belly size.

So you can see that I'm not looking to NOT do Yoga, just not the X version right now.

Ideas? Thoughts? Anyone? Bueller? emoticon
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11/5/12 9:54 AM as a reply to Piker22.
This may sound harsh to many of you, but if you are already fit, flexible, and strong, then why did you buy P90X? I bought it because I had gotten into a rut at the gym. I wanted something that I could do without having to think. You know, a program that was laid out for me, much like hiring a personal trainer at the gym. If you were to hire a trainer, woul dyou complain about a particular workout and say you don't want to do it?

I suggest for those who don't like the Yoga X, or find it too difficult or boring, go ahead and skip it, or sub it out for something else. However, don't be surprised and disappointed when you don't attain the results you are hoping for.

As far as not being able to get through the workout, that's normal in the beginning. Keep at it, and be strong mentally, and you will start to see exponential improvement as you gain strength and flexibility.
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11/5/12 3:13 PM as a reply to Piker22.
I feel for you! Yoga is the hardest thing for me to get myself to do. But you know what that means, right? It's probably the BEST thing for me. If you can't do the full hour and a half. Try doing the first 45 minutes or the last 45 minutes. Alternate weeks. I promise you that yoga is VERY good for you (mind, body, and soul). It will help your flexibility, balance, and prevent you from getting injuries.

Like Tony says, do your BEST and forget the rest. Your best might not be an hour and a half, but commit to something. Commit to half of the program or commit to every other week. Yoga is there for a purpose.
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11/21/12 6:52 AM as a reply to WO4EVER.
To WO4EVER:
My suggestion would be to seek out a quality yoga studio in your city and pay to attend a class or 2 of a hatha, ashtonga, or iyengar class (Tony seems to incorporate elements of all 3 styles into YogaX). The instructor of the class should be able to provide you with some modifications for poses that you can take back to YogaX.

Remember too that yoga is actually intended to be a daily, lifelong practice. It's included as part of P90X and I love that, but yoga is an ancient practice that takes a lifetime to achieve. That's why it's called yoga "practice". So don't beat yourself up too much when, on your 3rd time of popping in the YogaX disc, you're still having trouble with the basics.
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11/21/12 6:52 AM as a reply to Piker22.
I was the same way. The first few week of the program I don't think I even did the Yoga X. I did everything I could to avoid it. But after doing it a while it started to grow on my. Now I only did Yoga X once. I did fountain of youth but got a hold of P90X2 Yoga which is only 1 hr and I do that every week instead. At the end of Phase 2 I decided to go to a local Yoga studio and try cause they had a P90X yoga and it was in a HOT room. I was looking for some feedback on my poses to make sure I was doing them right. This changed everything...I now love yoga and this has become my favorite program in all of P90X. Once you do the hot room you can't go back to normal, you just get a deeper stretch and are able to get into the poses better. In the last week of P90X, instead of doing the "rest" exercises I decided to go to Hot Yoga 6 days in a row!!!! I'm addicted!

So in short I concur with a previous poster about trying yoga at a studio. I haven't used the disc since I started going....plus the instructors help you with you poses. They give you other cue's to help your poses also like keeping the weight on the outside of your feet and keeping an outward rotation on the front knee during warrior pose. Little things that are not pointed out in Yoga X.
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11/21/12 8:03 AM as a reply to Piker22.
I feel the same way, I know people who swear by Yoga...personally I pretty much hate it. I've done P90x yoga, and my fiancé loves it and I've done some of her videos that are easier and still can't stand it. I can't get motivated to do that long drawn out and to me very boring session, regardless of toughness. After month 1 of round 1 I started substituting Cardio X in place of yoga each week...worked for me, and the 10-15 minutes of Yoga at the beginning is about as much as I could bring myself to do, plus you still get some light cardio after.
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11/21/12 8:31 AM as a reply to Piker22.
I know some may find this really weird or silly, but because I was dreading the Yoga too, I had to change my mindset. Since the Yoga is almost a meditation, I turned it into my "pretend it's Sunday and this is my church" routine. Every movement I did, I made up a thank you to God. I am definitely NOT a religious person, but consider myself very spiritual. This reallllllly helped me get through the workout, and then I actually started looking forward to it.
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11/21/12 9:20 AM as a reply to Piker22.
I dreaded doing it for a long time, too. It just seemed so long and boring. But then after awhile, you just seem to go along with it and it flies by. I think that has a lot to do with getting stronger because the few seconds that you hold a pose used to feel like about 10 times longer than the actual time but later on that stops being the case.

Also, by month 3 I was doing just about everything in the routine with ease. The only thing I was never able to do was the pose where you reach under your leg and clasp your other hand or wrist - I was eventually able to do it on one side but not the other. I also never did the toe lock on the standing leg extension and I stuck with bridge instead of wheel, although I could do both of these for a few seconds at a time.

In the beginning, I had all of these problems:
- Program felt like it took forever.
- Left foot always got caught swinging through to Runner's Pose
- Couldn't get feet to the floor in Plow
- The entire Warrior 3 / Standing Split / Half Moon / Reverse Half Moon move was agony. Then I could do it if I put my raised foot down for just Half Moon (Reverse seems easier for me balance-wise). Eventually, I could just do the whole thing without feeling much strain.
- Yoga Belly 7 was agony.

I kind of thought of it like climbing a mountain where the 45 minute point (end of moving options) is the summit. After that it's pretty much all downhill with one last challenge (Yoga Belly 7) at the end (and some of the balance stuff is a bit tough). At first I dreaded the whole first 45 minutes. Then it was just the part after Reverse Warrior because you realize that it's really just the CardioX warmup up to that point. Then it was just the 15 minute section after the water break. Then it was just that final Warrior 3 / Half Moon combination. Then not even that.
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11/21/12 9:25 AM as a reply to Piker22.
I felt the same way and would often just do X-stretch instead of the Yoga. Plus I have a bad back and couldn't do some of the poses and 90 mins was just not enjoyable. I loved all the other workouts though....it was just that darn yoga.
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11/21/12 8:46 PM as a reply to Piker22.
I felt the same way about Yoga x but I found that the deeper I got into the program and the stronger I got, the more I could do in Yoga X. I had P90X in my closet for over 2 years because in the time it took to arrive, I had convinced myself it was something I could not do. This program has become a life changing experience both in fitness and diet and convinced me I can do anything I work hard at. Yoga X is the toughest workout for me but it is not going to sit in my closet. I work hard at it and make gains in it as my strength increases. Do I wish it wasn't so long? Sure, but everything else in this program has worked for me and I decided not to second guess this part of the program. I think of it as a goal to work towards. It may take a long time, but the day I can keep up with them through that whole routine will be a very proud one for me. I think if you just stick with it you'll be glad you did in the end.
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11/23/12 4:10 PM as a reply to Piker22.
Hi just thought id check in I jacked up my arm playing volleyball so i couldnt hold down dog during yogax so i subed in the x stretch i knew i needed to stretch well its really like tony says u are taking care of yourself today Im a little older and after working hard for the first 3 days my body needs the x stretch then im really ready to finish the week strong dont neglect stretching though no matter what, it is the fountain of youth if there is one now i just make the yoga x a day of its own I really like yoga but i think there is more to it than down dog. Go p90x yeah
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11/23/12 7:21 PM as a reply to book20.
Since I last posted, a good many of you have 'chimed' in about the virtues of 'sticking' with the Yoga X, for lots of really good reasons.

Not sure how many of you were actuallyresponding to my post, but again I would repeat that I wasn't looking to 'get out of' doing it, but rather, realizing those 'virtues' and the benefits of Yoga, I was asking if anyone knew of, other than the FOY Yoga session, a YOGA workout that someone of my extreme size could 'negotiate' his way thru so I could not just enjoy those benefits but work my way towards something more advanced and stamina-challenging like YogaX eventually.

Now I've since, thru my own research and shopping, found a Yoga DVD that IS tailored for me and those who have current 'limitations' that reach beyond just
having problems with the 'Down Dogs'


Thanks to those who were offering feedback to my inquiry.
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