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Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
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Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
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5/23/12 5:07 PM
Hello everyone I am currently doing p90x and insanity at the same time and I was wondering how I might find out how many calories I should be taking in and the amount of protein I need. I have the nutrition guides but they don't say anything about doing two programs at once. I have already completed one round of p90x and lost 16 lbs and 16 inches but now I am at a plateau. I am afraid that maybe it is because i may not be taking in enough calories, and my body could be in starvation mode...I am currently eating 1200 to 1700 calories.
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RE: Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
5/23/12 7:31 PM as a reply to BunninBama.
Can you tell us how you are doing them at the same time? Are you doing the hybrid program or are you doing one of each workout each day? If the second is the case it sounds like you might not be getting enough calories. You can track calories with a heart rate monitor, most models now will track both heart rate and calories burned.
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5/23/12 9:00 PM as a reply to BumpusBurn.
I am doing the two workouts daily. I am not quite sure how to calculate how many calories... I was considering getting a heart rate moniter. I suppose I do need one emoticon I know many people do not recommend doing both but I slowly built into it by doing the P90x doubles system. It's not too strenuous on me. I am used to it now.
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5/24/12 2:50 AM as a reply to BunninBama.
For one, if you're doing both workouts, you're overloading your muscles and burning them out so you're going to plateau and eventually hurt yourself. Second, you're not eating NEAR enough calories. You are starving your body hardcore. To do both workouts you'd probably need to eat 3-4000 calories a day to lose weight.

You should try hybrid workouts rather then doing both. If you check out teamripped.com he has a hybrid link of p90x and insanity to get the best out of both programs while still maintaining weight loss/muscle gain.

A hybrid workout is 3 days a week you're doing p90x, and 3 days a week you're doing max interval training from Insanity.
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5/24/12 6:20 AM as a reply to tphegley.
tphegley:
For one, if you're doing both workouts, you're overloading your muscles and burning them out so you're going to plateau and eventually hurt yourself. Second, you're not eating NEAR enough calories. You are starving your body hardcore. To do both workouts you'd probably need to eat 3-4000 calories a day to lose weight.

You should try hybrid workouts rather then doing both. If you check out teamripped.com he has a hybrid link of p90x and insanity to get the best out of both programs while still maintaining weight loss/muscle gain.

A hybrid workout is 3 days a week you're doing p90x, and 3 days a week you're doing max interval training from Insanity.


Agreed...both programs at the same time is a recipe for injury. At best, you won't get enough recovery and won't perform either optimally; at worst, you're looking at a severe case of overtraining.

Just my opinion...
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5/24/12 1:50 PM as a reply to BunninBama.
You might be surprised to hear this, but doing two workouts in one day will most likely slow your results and progress down, almost to a halt. The body responds optimally to an hour of exercise a day, anything more usually makes you hit a plateau and fast.

My suggestion is to go for the P90X / Insanity hybrid schedule which uses both routines but only 1 per day in an effective manner. From there all you need to do is use the P90X nutrition guide to calculate your daily intake. I'd need your height / weight / age to help you with that unless you just use the guide. I'd probably guess you to be around 1800 though.

Keep pushin' play, and when it's time to exercise give it your 110%! But don't bother doing two a day!
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5/24/12 4:35 PM as a reply to Jacob83.
I definitely agree with Jacob on this one! You are not doing your body any favors if you are doing 2 workouts at once. You can only handle so much. You should take the extra hour you are spending on working out and educating yourself on nutrition and how to really adapt the food plans to your lifestyle. There is a reason they don't tell you how to be doing 2 programs at once because anyone in Beachbody would tell you not to do it.

Have you ever heard of zig zag dieting? That has been a very effective method for people show have hit a plateau. What you do is take your base line calories that eat say 1600 for example. Then one day you eat like 1200. Then the next day you eat 1600. Then the day after that you have 1800 or so. You keep fluctuating and it keeps the body guessing.

You can also tweak your protein/ carbs/ and fat ratios. Some people have great results with the fat shredder plan while others do not. If you have hit a plateau it is in your diet. Not your lack of workouts!
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5/24/12 5:07 PM as a reply to TimsFit.
I appreciate the concern all but I didn't jump staight in lol. I worked myself up to it my doing p90x first and then p90x doubles and then going into this. It is very similar to p90x doubles but a bit more intense. I will try it this way for a few more weeks and if I stay in this plateau then I will follow your advise and switch to a hybrid. Perhaps I was overly ambitious. lol. I spoke to my bbcoach and she shed a little light on my situation on what I should be eating. I will try for a but longer... we shall see.
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RE: Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
5/26/12 9:37 PM as a reply to BunninBama.
Let us know how things work out for you. I'm interested to see what you find out!
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6/11/12 11:26 AM as a reply to BunninBama.
You should be fine, just make sure you give your body enough fuel (food, supplements, etc) to recover and not break down. The more you work out, the more calories/carbs you should eat. Good luck!
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6/12/12 5:24 AM as a reply to BunninBama.
Whats your height, weight and age? With that, we can come up with some kind of caloric need. But I would guess around 2500-3000 or more.


Also, because you worked your body up to it, doesn't mean it will be good for cutting fat or increasing strength. When you combine cardio with strength training, your body fights with itself to repair both. Below is a study of what I mean.


here's a link to the research:
http://www.jssm.org/vol4/n1/10/v4n1-10pdf.pdf

Title:
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CIRCULATING CORTISOL AND TESTOSTERONE: INFLUENCE OF PHYSICAL EXERCISE
Kaye K. Brownlee, Alex W. Moore and Anthony C. Hackney
originally published in : Journal of Sports Science and Medicine (2005) 4, 76-83

I'll make special note of the first part of the conclusion by the researchers here:

"In conclusion, there are statistically significant relationships between cortisol and testosterone in humans in the recovery from physical exercise. Previous results demonstrate pharmacological levels of cortisol have a highly significant negative effect on circulating testosterone concentrations (Bambino and Hsueh, 1981; Cumming et al.,1983). Exercise appears to allow for the development of a similar negative relationship between cortisol and total testosterone (although not an extremely robust
association)."

essentially what this paper says is that in the post exercise recovery phase (up to about an hour after the exercise), cortisol essentially counteracts the effects of testosterone in the body, which means drastically reduced muscle building and recovery function. If you do cardio, this is not a problem as there's no statistical increase in muscle mass anyway, thus no need for elevated testosterone levels, but after a heavy resistance session where the goal is hypertrophy or otherwise increasing muscle mass, the first hour post exercise is the time when testosterone levels would be the highest, thereby generating the most muscle recovery and growth. In other words, if you do both, you're reducing the results of both.

Besides my other contentions with regards to mixed exercise types (those being, competition for energy in the form of glycogen, reduced actin-myocin bridge reaction because of increased need and depletion of calcium in the muscle site, and increased need for oxygen at the non-rebuilding muscles when in cardiovascular sub-maximal conditions), this additional research really presses home the point that you should separate your workouts, giving at LEAST an 8 hour separation to allow for hormone levels to recover and glycogen levels to be replenished before attempting an alternate exercise routine.

If all of this information is way over your head, here's the layman's synopsis:
Doing both weight training and cardio in the same session makes your body battle for resources, your weight training muscles want the resources to repair the muscles you worked out, and the cardio muscles need other hormones and resources that fight against those weight training hormones and resources, add that to the fact that cardio depletes the energy that you need to fuel the rebuilding process, and you have reduced results from both, meaning that the results you THINK you're getting aren't going to be there.
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9/26/12 9:14 PM as a reply to BunninBama.
Hey how are you?

I know this post was some months ago, but I am doing the same thing Except I rest saturdays and sundays.

How did this work out for you?

Im loosing weight and getting muscle i am also taking super hd from cellucor its been working so far, but please let me know your results.

Jerry
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1/2/13 2:29 PM as a reply to BunninBama.
I definitely learned the hard way here. You were right. lol I wanted to do so much I over trained my body, and got stuck in a 2 month plateau. I should have listened, but i guess some things we must learn from experience. I am doing great doing either or every day, instead of both now. Unless I miss a day then I may double up but that is once in a blue moon. It definitely slows your progress to do both every day. Even if your body is capable, that doesn't mean it that is what is best for it.
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1/2/13 2:43 PM as a reply to BunninBama.
I think that all depends on your goals, such as what weight you're aiming to get to. I'm not sure exactly how many calories you should be taking in, but it should definitely be more than 1200-1700! Insanity and P90X are both very extreme workouts and your body is probably starving for energy after both of them!
WOW!!! How are you doing them at the same time?!? You must be crazy-fit!! Good luck! Let me know what you think of Insanity...I've been thinking about trying it.
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1/2/13 4:27 PM as a reply to RayMac1213.
When I was doing both daily I did them back to back. It was hard, but it was possible. I was eating around 2500 cal to 2700 cal to keep my body fed, but my body just wasnt changing the way it was before I did doubles. Once I went back down to one and decreased my calorie intake, my results started coming much faster. I love insanity and I love p90x too. Insanity requires much more energy, but I still love it. I did a month of Asylum also and I absolutely loved that. Asylum challenges your body differently and really pushes you as hard as you can go.
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1/3/13 7:37 AM as a reply to BunninBama.
BunninBama:
I definitely learned the hard way here. You were right. lol I wanted to do so much I over trained my body, and got stuck in a 2 month plateau. I should have listened, but i guess some things we must learn from experience. I am doing great doing either or every day, instead of both now. Unless I miss a day then I may double up but that is once in a blue moon. It definitely slows your progress to do both every day. Even if your body is capable, that doesn't mean it that is what is best for it.


Well, good for you for being smart enough to back down when necessary. There are probably a lot of people that wouldn't.
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RE: Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
2/18/13 3:14 PM as a reply to BunninBama.
I've been doing both but only on Resistant days like ill doing chest & back ARX then pure cardio or cardio power, same on shoulders and arms days. Do you think I'm over training? I'm just trying to get the love handles for by doing 20-30 mins of cardio after weight training . Any tips would be Appreciated.
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RE: Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
2/24/13 10:45 AM as a reply to BunninBama.
Hey what about the insanity program + p90x strength workout days (monday, wednesday and friday i mean) so Ill be doing the 2 programs just 2 days.

Comments???
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RE: Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
6/13/13 12:21 AM as a reply to timmypotter.
timmypotter how are you doing I'm doing the same thing p90x and insanity only monday wednesday and friday the rest only insanity. I was wondering if you got results doing it that way.
I am on my second week 3rd day ..
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RE: Doing p90x and Insanity at the same time
6/13/13 12:38 AM as a reply to BunninBama.
Intense cardio after resistance training is VERY counter productive. If you don't heed the warning from the topic creator then I guess you just have to figure it out the hard way.
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