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Thyroid Issues?
7/17/07 11:08 AM
Based on the popularity of our Thyroid article, I'm starting this thread for anyone with thyroid issues who would like to share stories and support each other.
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7/17/07 11:08 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Here's a link to Allison's article "Is Your Thyroid Making You Fat?":

http://www.beachbody.com/jump.jsp?itemID=645&itemType=N...TTER_ISSUES#article2

We'll also have a Mailbag on this subject soon:

http://forums.milliondollarbody.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/8082987037

We'll also have an article about how Allison lost here weight soon. What the article doesn't tell you is that Allison is thin (maybe not model thin but THIN) and looks great.
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RE:Thyroid Issues?
7/17/07 11:28 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Great work Steve!!
I can't wait to read a follow up article about Allison, and specifically things she did to encourage her weight loss.
This is a great topic.
Not to make excuses for unusual weight gain, but to shed light on possible factors contributing to it, and hopefully how to control it.

Thank you very much!
Lynda
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7/17/07 11:41 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
I just answered over 100 letters I'd received from women (and a few men) with thyroid issues who wanted to tell their story and ask advice. Hopefully, many of you have found your way to this thread where you will be able to access a lot more information than I'd be able to give you.

I'm sure Allison will be stopping by from time to time herself.
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RE:Thyroid Issues?
7/17/07 11:45 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Hi Allison,

I am padma, I have hypo throdism, i troed to loose my weight since 2 years, i dont have kids now , doctor asked me to loose weight but i tried a lot i am relly loosing my hope, pls help me how and what i should do to loose my weight.
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7/17/07 11:52 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Don't be shy about posting those stories you sent to me. This is the perfect place for them. By seeing each other's situation it will help each of you learn how to better deal with your own. You might be surprised to see how many of you are in similar situations. There is strength in numbers!
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7/17/07 12:03 PM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
I don't want anyone to mistake me for an expert. I wanted to share my situation and experience to hopefully help shed light on a problem that goes undiagnosed all too often.

As far as losing my weight, I will sound like a BB commercial, but I lost weight by doing Beachbody videos. I focus on videos with lots of cardio because cardio is how you get the fat off. My weight stays under control the best when I am kicking my booty with Turbo Jam.

Another component that cannot be left out is eating habits. What you eat and how much you eat has a lot to do with weight gain. For example, cutting sugar out of my diet recently has significantly boosted my energy level. The way I stay away from sugar is my husband and I have a $150 bet that the other one will eat sugar first. I am very cheap, so this is a great incentive.

It looks like Steve has already signed me up to do an article about how I lost the weight, so I guess I'll get my info together and expand on that more in the article.

Remember though, being on thyroid hormones won't make the fat magically fall off your body. You'll have to work to get every last pound off. But be gentle and patient with yourself. My motto: "Progress not perfection." My other motto: "Talk doesn't cook rice."
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7/17/07 12:25 PM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Sorry to be ignorant about your identity, but to confirm... is LOOKnGR8 the "Allison" from the article?
I don't want to assume.
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7/19/07 10:05 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Everyone is being so SHY! C'mon, folks, this is the boards! It's the place where you can speak freely and loudly no matter what your personality is elsewhere.

And I know you're interested. Those stories sent to me will do you a lot more good if posted here.

Here's in my latest article on the thyroid.

http://forums.milliondollarbody.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8082987037/m/785102409
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7/19/07 10:50 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
OK here it goes...
I think I'm probably a very COMMON profile, for mysterious weight gain, possibly due to thyroid issues / depression.
COMMON in that I have not gone to a doctor! probably like most people experiencing this. Why haven't I gone to a doctor yet? a few reasons.
#1. I'm not a "doctor" kind of person, just when I was pregnant.
#2. Lack of available doctors in my town, in combination with having 3 kids, and no one to watch them for me. (also a very common problem with moms!)
#3. I'm actually teriffied of what he may have to say.
Here's what happened to me last fall.
I had been in very good physical shape, not all my life, but from about 2005-2006 with lots of work and strict nutrition.(on a different program)
In November of 2006 I experienced the following all at once.
-financial trouble
-major vehicle repairs, (leading to more bills just before Christmas)
-Family and relationship stress
-worried about my Brother's health problems
-worried about my Dad's health problems
-two of my kids going through "teen years"!!!
Soon my sleep patterns began to go. often just a few hours of very restless sleep each night, then progressing into NO SLEEP at all, often for 3 days/nights. During this time I was continuing to workout, even though I was exhausted, and my nutrition changed a bit as I couldn't afford much of the protein rich foods anymore, because of all my financial troubles.
I noticed my "skinny" clothes I had worked so hard to get into, were becoming very tight....then I had to move out of them into bigger sizes. and bigger and bigger. Gaining weight at a rate of about 1 pound every 2 days!! it was insane, I thought I was going insane too. Finally jogging became unbearable. My trim fit body, was very soft and squishee now. cellulite like CRAZY, and my breasts were growing as if I was breastfeeding. they hurt, they were swollen and it felt like puberty all over again. I was COLD, I was Sweaty, I was Hot, I was a Mess! of course all of this just led to an even deeper depression. A feeling of frustration, hopelessness, and depair, was always at the forefront of my mind as I battled through workouts - that used to bring me joy.
As my depression seemed to lift (mainly when winter was finished and the spring weather seemed to cheer me up, along with the longer sunlight hours) I really focused on my Nutrition once again, and needed to find a NEW workout program. Even though the "other" program had worked for me in the past, it was during these workouts that I went through all of this weight gain, and my old routine just seemed to have a very negative connetation to it. Then I found BeachBody.
I started my P90 at 195, and today at day 25 weigh in at 188. It's just a small start, but the regular workouts are mood lifting and I'm developing much better eating habits and dealing with Stress much better. I know because I can now SLEEP! I don't feel so "hormonal" or that I'm going crazy. It's going to be a long road, and if I do have Thyroid issues maybe I don't want them diagnosed because then it will be "official" and I'll feel I'm working against a handicap getting to my goals. I'm not completely ignoring the problem, I'm just choosing to handle it with the best mental attitude possible, continue to work towards my healthy goals, no matter how long it may take.
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7/19/07 4:26 PM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
I have been hypo since 1985 when they gave me radio active iodine to "kill" my 3 times higher than normal producing thyroid. I gained weight like wham! I was tipping the scales about 170 or so when they did it and I ballooned to my current weight of over 300!

I am a "want it now" person and have been off again - on again with my weight loss regimen for about three years now. I hate the fact that I cannot lose it now! I struggle to lose anything on a weekly basis. I lose inches fast but the scale doesn't move. I know I should not stick with ONE set of #s...that of the scales. The way the clothing fits, the smaller #s on the tape measure...but I WANT TO SEE THAT SCALE MOVE! Then I get discouraged and stop. emoticon(

I currently take Synthyroid .125mg. I just had my blood work done and I am still okay with the current level. I really wanted to cry today though...went to the doctor's for my annual and the scales were 320. Goodness gracious! How can I stay motivated to JUST DO IT????

Theresa
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7/20/07 5:17 PM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Theresa,
You are not alone, I also have a thyroid problem, diagnosed a couple years ago with Graves disease, had the radioactive iodine treatment as well, lost alot of my waist length hair, (still havent gotten that back) and changed Synthroid medication does many times. I have read and found out for myself that people especaily women with hypothyroid do not have a choice with exercise and diet. To lose weight you must give up sugar, most bad carbs -the "white" bread, rice etc. Look for your sucess with inches and the fit of your cloths, throw out the scale it does more harm than good. Read the book the thyroid diet-it says many things I wrote above and tell yourself when you are tired, worn out and fed up -I CAN DO THIS AND GET UP AND PUCH PLAY-trust me it works. I went from a size 18 to a size 10 with beachbodys programs-you are strong and can do this!
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7/23/07 1:00 PM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Amen, Maverick!

I used to have a workout partner who would always get upset when we would pop a Debbie dvd in because she wanted to look like Debbie instantly. Do you know how long Debbie has been working out on a verrry regular basis?! Do you know how she eats?! I bet if we did what she does, we would look pretty good too. However, we want it instantly.

What worthwile thing can you get instantly? Even a baby takes about 10 months.

I focus on the improvements. For ex, "Wow! I can do 5 more pushups than I was able to do last week!" Right now, I am celebrating my 2-pack. I am very proud of it. No, it's not a 6 or 8 pack. It's my 2-pack and I worked hard for it. If I keep working hard, maybe I'll develope a 2.5 pack or a 4 pack!

Another thing I notice is that I can run across the superwide LA intersections and not be winded at all. I can climb the stairs from our 7th floor to the 10th floor and recover my breath quickly.

Celebrate the progress. You'll never feel you are perfect. Even Tony has complaints about his body. He gripes about his love handles. Debbie has complaints. I forget hers . . . I guess because I think she looks flawless.

Anyway, that's how I've kept myself going. I focus on and celebrate my progress.

Maverick, thank you for the book suggestion. I am going to get it.
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7/25/07 1:45 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Hey Everyone,
I was emailed a request to post something that I shared when I read the article "Is your Thyroid making you Fat?". My story is a bit long but I want to tell it because I have run into others that were have the same problems but didn’t understand their symptoms.
Several years ago I began to have chronic fatigue, migraines, joint pain and knew something was up. I spent a year and a half going from one Dr. to another only to be told that I could have Lupus, or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, but they could not find anything to be sure other than my thyroid was a bit off.
I then took things into my own hands. I knew that I felt worse after I ate. Not right away and not all the time. So I decided to fast. Because I have to watch my blood sugar I knew I could not do a juice fast, I did a protein fast with boiled chicken and water.
After a 5 days I felt better and began to introduce spices. First was salt, pepper, then rosemary, then I tried garlic salt and fell ill again. When I tried bread the same thing. The same occurred with numerous other products – mayo, ketchup, canned tuna, Chinese food, salad dressing, cookies, pasta sauces, chips, fries, bread, muffins (can you tell I am not a health nut?). What it boiled down to was one ingredient that they all had, SOY. Partially hydrogenated soybean oil, soybean oil, soy sauce, soy lethicin, soy.
I was amazed not only that I had easily eaten these products for years and now could not but shocked at all the prepared products that everyone uses daily that contains soy. It adds up. Not understanding that soy could be bad, I researched the internet.
I found that soy not only causes my symptoms but numerous others. One that was not the worst but is applicable to this forum is that soy can cause the thyroid to go haywire or even shut down. Many complained of inexplicable weight gain and the inability to loose the weight.
I give you this story so you can examine your own lives to see if it could be an issue for you. The doctors don’t get it yet. This is not a problem for all, just some. Everyone is different.
Last but not least you should know the fact that soy is an estrogen (hey guys what does that mean for you?), breast cancer survivors cannot have any soy because it grows tumors; soy is number eight on the list of allergens, peanuts being number one. What happened to soy being so good for you? Is it affecting YOUR thyroid?
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7/25/07 8:10 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Wow, what eye opening information! I think I may be consuming way too much soy?!
When I was going through my really crazy weight gain starting about 6-7 months back... I was eating a lot of Soy nuts, (I thought they were really healthy for me!) and SOY protein, and bars with soy protein too. the estrogen thing makes sense as with the Fat Gain, I also experienced like a second kind of puberty or something? my breasts were sore and hurt, they were growing rapidly, (all fat tissue) making it hard for me to enjoy jogging until I just gave it up completely and then the weight gain really picked up the pace.

Thank you for the info! while I would hope I can consume most foods in moderation and not cut SOY out completely, I think I will reduce my SOY intake and maybe try WHEY protein for a while, see how that goes.
I've stopped eating the SOY nuts since.
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7/25/07 9:48 PM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
New to this program;if fact, haven't even recieved my package yet. Have been reading posts and found this thyroid thread. Recently started meds for low thyroid problems. Lab numbers were "off some last year' according to my doctor this year. News to me! Don't doctors look at your lab results when they get them back and address them at that time?? He stated he would make a point to check my lab results this time around and sure enough my numbers were off even more. So I've started medication and am gaining the 30 pounds I'd lost last year back. Can't fit into any of my 'new' clothes I had to purchase a few months back. (of course, I didn't keep the old 'fat clothes'!) Now having severe problems with my depression which I've had for many years now. Hoping this program will keep me going so I can at least control my weight gain. I have problems with night binge eating and keeping on a consist exercise schedule. Any hints to control binge eating? Husband is over weight and doesn't plan on trying to lose any and so he is always bringing home 'junk foods' which brings me to another problem- no will power when it comes to sweets and salty snacks. I do very well when they aren't in the house, but he has started bringing them home again,afterall, "youre' getting fatter again any way, so whats' the difference if its' because of your meds or junk foods?" Anyone else have hubby problems of this sort, I would love to hear how you are dealing with them.
Other posts mentioned the link of poor nutrition as a child being linked to thyroid and depression problems. All of my six siblings now have both of these health problems as adults and we ate high sugar and carb diets our entire growing up years. In fact, we consumed very few veggies and fruits while young. Mainly ate fried potatoes, beans and cornbread, oatmeal. We drank water and sweet southern tea.-2 cups sugar per/2 qts. Although, I've made diet changes for the better as an adult, it would seem that my childhood is still affecting my health.
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7/26/07 7:53 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
(((hugs))) to Cat Lover.

I understand you.

the main difference is I haven't involved the confusion of a doc, or medication in my dilemma, (yet anyway). For me, I feel the "worst" is over...mainly the depression and it is slowly but surely going to change now, with consistant exercise and good eating. that's my plan anyway.

I too gained a lot recently with strange hormone influxesm, Major depression, the worst I've ever experienced, and I too threw away all of my "big" clothes, (14's and 16's) from when I got "skinny" like small size 8's even some 6's!!!. so now I feel like a Cow,

My boyfriend also brings in the Doritos and chips and cookies and ice cream, but he is not over weight, he can eat anything. He will always offer the "junk" to me, when he is having it, and I've told him a million times, please don't even ask me if I want that, I do not. He says he is just trying to be nice. and that I should eat whatever I want. I reply that I WANT to eat healthy! emoticon (although I do sneak Ice cream from time to time)

When I was a small size 8, my dad brought me a dress (size 14)... for when I get all Fat again. so I know what you feel.

Best of luck with your programs, although LUCK has nothing to do with it, it's all upto you, it's all effort, and patience.

Keep Smiling.
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7/28/07 1:39 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Lynda, I cannot tell you how many people I have run into that when I tell them I have a soy intolerance and they ask me to explain, a light goes on in their head with mysterious symptoms that all of a sudden make sense. The most common are the thyroid problem, weight gain, fatigue, headaches. Estrogen symptoms are a given and it sure sounds like your issue too. It would be great to see more articles on the issues that soy can create. Unfortunately, most protien shakes and bars are made with soy so it creates a conflict. Fortunately, with the rising awareness there are more products on the market now that do not have soy.
If everyone would start looking at ingredients labels for soy, you all will be surprised at how much soy they are eating without knowing. I have run into men who are having estrogen intake symptoms that say they do not eat any soy products yet have no clue that the french fries they are eating are fried in vegetable oil (soybean oil). Or the mayo they use is soybean oil based. And what about those chips?
I really feel the need to tell people when I think of the lady that was in hospital bed next to my mom when she was having surgery. I could hear the Dr.s tell her the same things I heard. "We cannot find anything seriously wrong with you. Maybe you are over stressed, or have chronic fatigue". She was in tears. She could not been more than 24. She had a 2 year old. Through her tears she said she had gained 70lbs after the baby was born, she had headaches and was so tired all the time that one day she just passed out on the floor and her baby put her blanket on mommy. That frightened her enough to check in to the hospital. She didn't want to leave till they found something. The doctors just said "We can't help you".
After the docs left, I peaked over and begged her forgiveness for listening but that I had similar issues and explained. It was like a light bulb went on in her head. She had been having problem with food allergies and didn't even think soy could be an issue. She wiped her tear resolved now to take things in her own hands and focus on what she is eating. Soy would be the first to go.
I never saw her again but there so many weird symptoms out there that if one food can cause so many it is worth looking at a possible source. Why treat the symptoms when you can eliminate the source!
Sorry to be so long winded but if I can help anyone that suffered like me, it is worth it.
Thank you for letting me speak BeachBody!
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7/28/07 7:43 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Thanks Danusia, I appreciate your reply about possible soy confliction. I feel it may be a strong possibility for me. especially since "naturally" I would not be consuming a whole lot of SOY, but I was consuming a LOT of SOY protein isolate, (plain powder, I would mix in for protein shakes / smoothies ) The reason I turned to the SOY protein isolate was because it was very inexpensive compared to things like Whey gourmet, and more commercial "protein powders". Because of the really weird, "second puberty" it seemed like I was experiencing, I know my hormones were being affected, I just didn't know what could possbily be causing it. I think the only way to eliminate possible suspects is to remove the additional SOY protein from my diet and buy some WHEY protein for my Shakes, even if it costs more. I will just use it sparingly.
Wish me luck.
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7/29/07 7:28 AM as a reply to fitnessadvisor.
Thyroid issues and tired adrenal issues seem to go hand in hand.

Excess estrogen binds to T3 (the active component) of Thyroid hormone and doesn't allow it to "get" to the cellular level.

Tired adrenals and low thyroid mimic depression.
Tired adrenals can be caused by one horrible stressful episode or by an accumulation of stressful events. It usually has 3 phases and the last phase is complete exhaustion. One of the self tests is if you need to wear sunglasses outside all the time (the pupil doesn't properly) and of course complete exhaustion.

Things that can help, tyrosine, an amino acid that is a component of T3 and works in the brain chemistry to wake you up, Cortiguard an adrenal complex to help support the adrenal glands, reduction of estrogen through use of progesterone. Vit A supplements. T3 needs Vit A at the cellular level to work.

As a note, when women lose body fat, they lose slower because the burning fat releases estrogen, which in turn binds to T3, which in turn doesn't allow T3 to work at the cellular level.
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