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RE:what's the difference b/t vitamin supplements and whole food supplements
I want to start taking a good multivitamin as I start P90X but several people are telling me that whole food supplements are more effective.
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Anyone out there know more than I do about whole food supplements like Juice Plus vs. a regular mulit-vitamin supplement? This topic is very confusing!
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Whole food supplements are absurd in my opinion because, well, they aren't whole food.

A multivitamin doesn't pretend to be a replacement for healthy eating. It's a safety net in case you miss something. Juice Plus implies you can take that instead of fruits and veggies. Sorry, but we don't live in the Jetsons world. It doesn't work that way.

If you don't eat fruits and veggies, how else will you get calories? Is the idea that you can take Juice Plus and then fill up on junk? And what about the fiber fruits and veggies supply?

I also found it incredibly suspect that I couldn't find any Nutrition Fact listings on the Juice Plus website.
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I feel sad and a bit confused as to why the "expert" thinks that whole food supplements are "absurd." The idea that you can take supplements and not need to eat fruits and veggies IS absurd, however that has nothing to do with the validity of whole food supplements.
The vast majority of supplements on the open market are made from isolated nutrients and synthetics. Your body responds best to real honest nutrition. That is the basis of whole food supplements versus the rest of the market. This is a big topic and one that will not be done justice in these small pages. Visit Standard Process website and read more regarding supplements that are not only whole food but organic as well.
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I'd love to learn more about the topic, but please point me to a website that isn't selling whole food sups.

That said, your point is taken. Perhaps I should have limited my comments purely to Juice Plus instead of ruling out the whole shebang. I maintain that their website is dodgy.
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Juice Plus is a multi-level marketed product. I know that does not automaticaly make it questionable, but I am always suspicous of products marketed that way.

Standard Process products have been in the market place since the early twenties. They are only sold by Doctors. I am not sure of other web sites. Read a book called, "Going Back to the Basics." I am sorry but I do not remember the authors name. Read anything by Dr. Bruce West who creates the Health Alert news letter. The Weston Price web site has some scattered info on the subject as well.

Other than that it is a matter of much more detailed investigation to dig up all the various information. I have been studying this topic for 10-15 years. The hard data has come piece-meal over that time. The rest is (for me) common sense. It is kind of like saying there is no difference between organic food and conventional food.
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The book is actually called "Going Back to the Basics of Human Health," by Mary Frost, M.A.
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I think that it is difficult for some people to get the recommended amount of fruits/veggies on a daily basis, and the supplementation of these whole foods such as Ruby Reds, Perfect Food by Garden of Life, etc...are a good "fill-in." I like the slip them in my kid's smoothies to ensure they are getting optimal amounts of fruits/veggies in a day. They don't take the place of raw, fresh fruits/veggies, but are a good supplementation, especially when traveling.
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NetworkDC -

It's my opinion that you're making a very gray area into something that's black and white. I would love to debate with you, but what I'm paid to do here is offer advice, so I need to focus on that for now. Maybe when things slow down a little, I can get back into it.
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