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2nd round done! HELP
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2nd round done! HELP
10/28/12 3:16 PM
I just finished my second round of P90x today. I had great results from the first round and have definitely seen my back and shoulders change after both rounds. I would like to add more muscle mass and size to my frame 6'4 185lbs so I am thinking of doing a month long bulking workout and then jumping back into P90x again. Any thoughts?

Also I am curious to hear opinions about the yoga. I skipped it every week because it is really long and tough. Is this holding me back from my gains? I am happy but nowhere near satisfied. Would love some input.
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
10/28/12 4:23 PM as a reply to hankluton.
Skipping yoga was a MAJOR mistake. Every single week? There's no excuse for that. Youve missed out on a lot of growth opportunity by skipping it. Start your round 2 over ( because personally if someone told me they didn't do yoga x I don't count that as a complete round) and modify your calorie intake to a surplus of 500 or so.
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
10/29/12 4:20 AM as a reply to hankluton.
hankluton -

First off, great job finishing your 2nd round of P90x!! That is quite an accomplishment! I am in my 5th round of P90x and I am still loving every minute of it!

I would NOT be terribly upset about missing your yoga workouts. Although yoga has great benefits, there is no direct correlation to holding you back on your gains. Yoga may not be for you as it is for others. It is not for me and I did not do my yoga sessions either.....and I am NOT disappointed with my results. The beauty of P90x if the flexibility of modification. As long as you replace those missed yoga days with a cardio day or an extra resistance day....but don't sweat it!

If you are looking to bulk up, you should look at BodyBeast. Great program.....I am using hybrid of BodyBeast and P90x now. Several of my team members have done BodyBeast and the results were pretty amazing. Just a thought!!

If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out as I am more than willing to help!! Good luck and keep pushing play my friend!!!


Coach Frank
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/5/12 10:22 AM as a reply to CoachFrank43.
fwarchol:
hankluton -

First off, great job finishing your 2nd round of P90x!! That is quite an accomplishment! I am in my 5th round of P90x and I am still loving every minute of it!

I would NOT be terribly upset about missing your yoga workouts. Although yoga has great benefits, there is no direct correlation to holding you back on your gains. Yoga may not be for you as it is for others. It is not for me and I did not do my yoga sessions either.....and I am NOT disappointed with my results. The beauty of P90x if the flexibility of modification. As long as you replace those missed yoga days with a cardio day or an extra resistance day....but don't sweat it!

If you are looking to bulk up, you should look at BodyBeast. Great program.....I am using hybrid of BodyBeast and P90x now. Several of my team members have done BodyBeast and the results were pretty amazing. Just a thought!!

If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out as I am more than willing to help!! Good luck and keep pushing play my friend!!!


Coach Frank


I'm sorry, but how is it that you are a "coach" giving that sort of advice? The creator of the program doesn't share your view about not doing yoga. True, P90X allows modification, but completely eliminating a workout every week is not modifying, it's just lazy. Why buy a program if you are going to pick and choose what you want to do?
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/5/12 10:49 AM as a reply to hankluton.
I would question your REASONS for skipping it. If it is tough, it is probably worth doing. I tend to not like it because of the low calorie burns I get combined with that toughness, but I still keep doing it. The whole program is tough, you didn't skip the rest did you? I personally think it has benefits for flexibility and building core strength and endurance.
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11/5/12 2:44 PM as a reply to jaymontel.
jaymontel -

I appreciate your input......but answer me this: If a person has a back/muscle injury and cannot get into those yoga poses, does he/she just abandon the entire P90x program? Or how about that person that is very heavy and again, cannot get into those poses until that weight is shed....do they abandon the program? I do not know the OPs story so I do not know the reasons why he skipped it. Skipping a workout and replacing it with something else is much better than doing nothing at all.

To answer your question: I am a realistic coach....skipping one of the workouts is not the end all be all of the program. Will you get the EXTREME results some folks get if you do not follow the program to a "T"...more than likely no. But it is all about modification if there is some part of it you just cannot do. Again...I do not know this gentleman's reason. To go as far as calling it lazy is a bit of an assusmption on your part.

Tony constantly talks about modifying or replacing. As a matter of fact, he is coming up with a program for those that cannot do some exercises due to their disability.

Thank you for disagreeing with me but I stand strong with my sound advice to the OP.....as the other 700 members on my team would certainly agree.

Have a great day.....and keep pushing play!



Coach Frank
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/5/12 2:50 PM as a reply to hankluton.
I understand that yoga is difficult (mentally and physically), but that's what it is there for. Yoga is not going to give you big muscle gains, but it will help your flexibility, recovery, and prevent injuries.

If you want to bulk, you can keep doing P90X, but you could add in P90X+ or doubles. Additionally, really focus in on your diet. Add protein and definitely look into recovery formulas with carbohydrates in them (some of the Beast products). Then when you want to cut up at the end of that phase, go back to what you were doing.
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/5/12 4:38 PM as a reply to hankluton.
Yoga is not about building muscles or even really getting stronger. It's about flexibility, balance, and core strength, all of which are VITAL parts of P90X. If you miss one or two, no biggie, but eliminating it because it's "really long and tough," as the OP said doesn't help anyone.

After doing 10 rounds of P90X, getting P90X Certified, and now just completing Body Beast which has almost NO stretching in it, I can attest that Yoga is all but mandatory every week. My flexibility dropped significantly doing the Beast, and I can feel it in my joints. It's much easier to get inflamed tendons, and pull things out of whack, when you don't stretch out the muscles properly.

Yoga X is the most often repeated workout in P90X. Think Tony did that by accident? No. At the beach one day during the Sunday workout, he said if he could only do one kind of workout for the rest of his life, he'd do Yoga. Not because it's his favorite; it's not he likes lifting weights..but because it gives the most benefits to your long term health and fitness.

That's a lesson learned from the man himself. Take it for what it's worth. Personally, I dread Yoga, it bores me to death..but after doing Body Beast and feeling how tight and stiff I am now, I WILL be doing it every week.

Derek
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/5/12 8:12 PM as a reply to CoachFrank43.
fwarchol:
jaymontel -

I appreciate your input......but answer me this: If a person has a back/muscle injury and cannot get into those yoga poses, does he/she just abandon the entire P90x program? Or how about that person that is very heavy and again, cannot get into those poses until that weight is shed....do they abandon the program? I do not know the OPs story so I do not know the reasons why he skipped it. Skipping a workout and replacing it with something else is much better than doing nothing at all.

To answer your question: I am a realistic coach....skipping one of the workouts is not the end all be all of the program. Will you get the EXTREME results some folks get if you do not follow the program to a "T"...more than likely no. But it is all about modification if there is some part of it you just cannot do. Again...I do not know this gentleman's reason. To go as far as calling it lazy is a bit of an assusmption on your part.

Tony constantly talks about modifying or replacing. As a matter of fact, he is coming up with a program for those that cannot do some exercises due to their disability.

Thank you for disagreeing with me but I stand strong with my sound advice to the OP.....as the other 700 members on my team would certainly agree.

Have a great day.....and keep pushing play!



Coach Frank


Frank,

I personally struggle at times with low back pain, brought on from a flaw in my golf swing that I am correcting. I still do all the workouts, particularly yoga. I feel much better after doing it and struggling to get into the poses some days, especially the first 3 Sun Salutations. Now, the original poster didn't cite injury as a reason for not doing yoga. If someone just absolutely can't do it, or thinks he can't, then how does he do the other workouts?

I've watched many of the Tony Horton webcasts, and my feeling is that he would not agree with you and your 700 members. He would most likely say to modify and do your best. Heck, how many times does he say that in P90X?

Unless he weighs in on this thread, we probably won't know for sure what he would say, but there are several videos on YouTube of his discussing people skipping YogaX. As he would say, he's not a fan.

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it!
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/14/12 5:35 PM as a reply to 85834755.
I think I can speak on behalf of Tony, in that I've worked with him on a number of yoga projects, when I say he absolutely feels you should do yoga. In his words, anyone who doesn't include yoga in their training regime is either injured or will be injured shortly. He doesn't call it The Fountain of Youth for nothin'!
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/14/12 6:54 PM as a reply to hankluton.
I do not like Yoga and find some poses uncomfortable, but that is the point, to improve your balance and flexability, prevent injuries.. I would do the yoga the best to your ability...I have balance issues because of medical reasons(problems with my ears and equilibriam), but I still give it a go and it has helped me out alot.
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/14/12 8:09 PM as a reply to AdStaffDenis.
AdStaffDenis:
I think I can speak on behalf of Tony, in that I've worked with him on a number of yoga projects, when I say he absolutely feels you should do yoga. In his words, anyone who doesn't include yoga in their training regime is either injured or will be injured shortly. He doesn't call it The Fountain of Youth for nothin'!


Thanks for that! I figured that was the case.
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RE: 2nd round done! HELP
11/15/12 6:53 AM as a reply to hankluton.
I f you can modify the other exercises, why can't you modify the yoga poses. Do what you can until you can do better. I dread the day when its time for yoga (which I believe is today, day 4) but best believe I'm going to do them to the best of my ability....do your best and forget the rest.
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