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Body Beast Cardio?
11/9/12 4:11 AM
So I'm a couple of programs away from doing Body Beast(as I plan). Since getting cardio is my main priority, does BB have a decent cardio add-on, or would I need to add in some Asylum or something..? Thanks.
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11/9/12 4:33 AM as a reply to PandaTom.
The BB cardio disc also contains P90X Plyo as a "bonus" so you could do that if you wanted. The plan allows you to substitute Body Beast Total Body as another "cardio" sub. I am not sure what that entails since I am saving it for round 2 of the Beast (along with the Tempo workouts). While not to Insanity levels, if you really push yourself on the weights and keep up with the guys in the video, Beast will keep your heart rate up. Especially the Leg routines. Keep in mind that this is a bulking routine not a cardio conditioning one. Doing BB plus extra cardio is kinda defeating the purpose. Sagi has even commented on this. My advice would be to do the routine as is and then do a round of Asylum to follow. While your conditioning will naturally drop a bit, you will regain it quickly.
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11/9/12 4:46 AM as a reply to PandaTom.
i find that i can easily keep my heart rate just as high for the same time as the first month Insanity workout's just due to the use of light weights in a lot of the drills.
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/9/12 6:16 AM as a reply to PandaTom.
If cardio is your "main priority" I am not sure that Body Beast is for you. There is very little traditional cardio in it, but the program is very fast paced and most workouts do provide a good cardio workout.

I have really enjoyed the program and think that it is great for what it was designed to do, which is build muscle, but I was in much better cardio shape at the end of P90X that I am now, which is at the end of Body Beast.
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11/9/12 8:40 AM as a reply to PatCella.
My thoughts after a round of Huge Beast and then some:

I recently completed a round of Body Beast and really love this program with a few tweaks. I have found that the Bulk weeks in the Huge Beast schedule are very good for mass building, but also very good at making me feel like crap. I absolutely loved the shorter workouts as well. I had a huge appetite during the Bulk phase. I ended up eating very poorly, which took me a while to get back to eating healthy and slacked in the Beast Phase of my workouts. I therefore had some problems when converting to the Beast Phase.

This time around, I am doing Lean Beast while eating pretty clean, trying to cut out a lot of grains, etc. I think that the Build phase is the perfect workout for me. It keeps me lean and has just the right amount of cardio. Lean Beast includes a day of cardio each week, and the bulk phase is reduced to 5 weeks.

Presently, I am on week 2 of Lean Beast and loving it. However, I think that I will only do a couple of Bulk weeks and then switch back over to P90x. I just cannot make up my mind. I have decided that my goals are to be lean with strength and definition. The thing that I dislike about P90x is the length of the workouts. I do miss the stretching though. I may stick with Beast if I feel like I am staying fit with the extra cardio in Lean Beast, especially during the Bulk phase. We shall see. Maybe I will just add some Yoga and cardio from P90x.

We really have to get a hybrid P90x/Body Beast program going. Of course, this will only be beneficial for those who aren't really looking to gain mass.

I still think you can be fit while doing body beast by doing Lean Beast. We shall see.
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/9/12 12:09 PM as a reply to JohnsFitquest.
Definitely think some hybrid options would be great for BB...
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/9/12 9:18 PM as a reply to PandaTom.
@Gas- yea, I already bombed Insanity cuz it was hurting my body, but I hear Asylums better(and funner). I'm wanting to hit P90(or a P901&1 hybrid) next, then Beast. I know I need to get somewhat cut before doing this.

@Dirty- I'm doing a LMP/Insanity hybrid now, and it feels like the lighter weights, but higher frequency, works well too, without overdoing it...

@Pat- I mean as what I need to get some first, cuz I'm still overweight. Pump/Insanity(on the other days), then RevAbs(maybe make a hybrid of it), then P90/P902 hybrid, then Beast(lean) is my plan... lose weight, get a lil cut, then bulk up to add some mass, then back to some major fat-killing stuff, but I think by then, it sounds like I'll be fine...

@John- Same here, I have a list of programs I wanna do, but keep changing my mind, I think my current plan works best for me tho(above). That sounds like a good plan- staying with the "mid-range", I guess you could say, option, not getting as much bulk, but adding a little while keeping lean...

@Bungle- yea, doing my 1st hybrid now, and I like it a lot more.
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/10/12 10:28 AM as a reply to PandaTom.
I don't understand why people want to do all of these hybrids. You need to decide your goal. I have clients losing weight with Body Beast and it is absolutely possible, but just be careful with the calculations as they are designed to gain mass. You are better off using a P90x calculator and creating a deficit and go with 600 calories burned in a Body Beast workout. There is a lot of time before next summer. Why not do the LEAN BEAST now followed by P90x later, and you should be in pretty good shape come summer?

My P90x Calculator

Also, I don't know why people are worried about getting fat on Body Beast. I ended up having to eat 500 calories more than what is recommended just gain weight through the Bulk Phase...ultimately eating 4000 calories per day. I'm doing the Beast Phase now and after two weeks of eating to the guidelines my abs have come back to me. I'm about to go on the Competition Plan next week. To everyone worried about getting fat...don't worry...your precious abs will come back to you and then some.

I think everyone should go through Body Beast just so they can learn how to EAT. That was my favorite part of the program...everyone is so scared of eating carbs, but you need carbs to gain the mass. I went through 2 rounds of P90x before starting Body Beast, and now I know how to gain mass, as well as cut fat.

Losing weight or gaining mass is just a numbers game with some discipline. Once you figure out the numbers, and eat to the numbers, and don't cheat yourself on the workouts, you will see results....period.

I love Body Beast...probably because I love to eat! I will do multiple rounds of Body Beast, and I plan on being pretty JACKED before next summer.

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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/13/12 6:00 AM as a reply to RBroussard.
Two things:

1) If you use appropriate weights during the Beast Cardio workout, you'll get an appropriate cardiovascular workout

2) If you use the appropriate weights during the Legs day, you'll get an appropriate cardiovascular workout

If you push yourself properly during these two days, then you'll *at least* maintain your cardio-vascular fitness. In reality, you'll actually increase it, because you'll spend so much of your workout in the higher HR zone.

If you think you need cardio to lose weight, then you don't - you just need to create an appropriate calorie deficit. This could be done via diet alone, or diet combined with any of the following: mellow cardio (i.e. regular walks), hard cardio (i.e Hill running or HIIT) or Weight Training. The obvious advantage to using weight training to create a deficit is that you will retain the maximum amount of Lean Body Mass (ie Bone Density and Muscle Tissue) whilst you continue to lose fat.

Diet is really the key: You can eat well, weight train and shred yourself down. The body you'll be left with will be miles away better than someone strapped to a hamster wheel at the local box gym. If you're worried for your heart - bust some moves that get it up once or twice a week (I believe I showed that BB includes this above). If you're worried about your weight, do the programme and eat well (I believe I also covered that above)

In conclusion, there's enough real work to sort you out in the programme as it's written. Just show up, train hard, eat well and it'll all turn out ok in the end........
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/13/12 12:00 PM as a reply to PandaTom.
@ RB- Yea, no more mixing after this one, but LMP is 3 days a week for weights, so Im filling in the other days is all… and til recently I didn’t know of the Lean option, etc.. I don’t know anyone personally doing Beast, really, so knowing that is good…


@ Jimmer- Thanks.... yea, I guess I’m just concerned cuz Im peaking 300, which is why I’m in gear now… Starting with a couple less intensive programs to help lose weight/gain a lil muscle, before hitting the P90s/Beast(Id rather take a lil longer and be fully prepared to successfully finish).
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/14/12 4:49 AM as a reply to PandaTom.
Well, if you want to lean out/build muscle, I would do one full rotation of P90X as written. Don't alter the programme, eat extremely well (i.e. track your calories using one of the many online tracking sites/apps) at healthy deficit, and push yourself with the weights - aim to fail about 8-10 reps on every set. When it becomes too easy, up the weights. Keep pushing yourself. I swear after three months of that kind of hard work and with the appropriate dietary discipline, you will lose a great deal of weight and retain/gain some LBM.

Oh.... and don't skip the yoga!

If it's going well at the end of your first rotation, do it again. Second time around you'll be better at all the moves that make this programme a monster (i.e. pull ups) and will be able to push harder and get even more out of the programme.

Perhaps then, when you're where you want to be, you can do something like the beast and pack on some lb's of quality muscle?
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/14/12 9:44 AM as a reply to Jimmer74.
True.... I know 2 people who've done P90 twice in a row, and it seemed to make a big difference. 1 guy tried X2, but went back to X1. My thing is the pullups. Nowhere in my place to anchor anything. I do have an assist thing, but it'll be a pain going to the park everytime I have pullups to do. Trying to find a pull up stand I can put inside, but not one of those fancy things.
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/14/12 1:01 PM as a reply to PandaTom.
PandaTom:
True.... I know 2 people who've done P90 twice in a row, and it seemed to make a big difference. 1 guy tried X2, but went back to X1. My thing is the pullups. Nowhere in my place to anchor anything. I do have an assist thing, but it'll be a pain going to the park everytime I have pullups to do. Trying to find a pull up stand I can put inside, but not one of those fancy things.


X2 is the king of the P90X kinds of workouts - with one proviso: you need a certain level of fitness/body awareness to start it. All the core and balance moves require you to understand the way your body moves and engage it properly each and every time. If you can use med balls for all the moves and crank out unassisted pull ups, then it really shines. It's really divided people on these message boards though....

Two things: Can you use one of the non-attaching, P90X style pull up bars? No drilling, etc required, just sits on the door frame. Second, throw away the pull up assist.... it'll only get you good at doing assisted pull ups. Best bet is to do 3-4 sessions of pull-ups a week, using negatives to rapidly build up your numbers. Add a rep or two each time and in 4-6 weeks you'll be cranking them out with the best of them. There's plenty of people who went through P90X and variants using an assist and ended up only being able to do 2-3 unassisted pull-ups at a time after finishing the programme.
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/15/12 4:56 AM as a reply to Jimmer74.
Nope, I live in a trailer. Best bet is I'm trying to find a pull up stand to put outside(nothing fancy, just old school style)
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/17/12 9:36 PM as a reply to PandaTom.
PandaTom:
Since getting cardio is my main priority...

It would be more helpful if you could articulate your health and fitness priorities, rather than your "content" priorities.

If your goal is weight loss, you're probably going to accomplish that the best with a combination of resistance work, interval-style cardio, and a restricted diet.

P90X is probably the best mix of all of these in the BB armamentarium. Body Beast is really geared towards a narrow clientelle. The programs do move quickly, but they are not even remotely the cardiovascular challenge of P90X or P90X2.
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/18/12 2:35 AM as a reply to PaulX2.
I'm thinking maybe P90 next, if my body is ready for it... maybe do the Asylums 1st to get my arms/shoulders/back more ready for it...
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RE: Body Beast Cardio?
11/18/12 10:22 AM as a reply to PandaTom.
I don't think Asylum is a good prep for P90X. They're very different programs. There are two downsides of Asylum you need to be aware of that make even a scaled-down Asylum workout a poor idea for someone who isn't at a high fitness level:

One is the repetition -- you are jumping and doing pushups in every single workout, or nearly so. Even in the back workout (back to core) you start the workout with 6 minutes or so of continual jumping jacks, and in Strength you're doing rotational plyometric jumps holding a dumbbell. That's like 6 out of every 7 days doing jumping. There are physical adaptations to jumping that have to happen before you can tolerate a huge number of contacts (foot-ground contacts) without injury, and Asylum's programming really flies in the face of what trainers who specialize in plyometrics recommend. So if Asylum is in your future, I'd suggest doing REAL plyo training first to get used to the style (the best orthodox plyo routine in all of Beachbody is plyocide in X2, though PlyoX is good too).

Secondly, Asylum basically has you working on the edge of complete exhaustion for the entirety of the workouts. This is a setup for loss of form and potential injury. Even Shaun T starts losing form due to exhaustion, and he's sort of a superhuman.

P90X and X2 are much more "split" routines (as is Body Beast) where you are really not repeating exercises more than twice a week (let alone consecutive days). I think it's an easier way to get started. And in fact if you want arms, shoulders, and back to be 'ready', you can't beat P90X2.

In fact I would argue that a good strategy would be do Phase 1 of P90X2 first. Then do P90X. Then go back and do Phases 2 and 3 of P90X2.

Both P90X and to a lesser degree P90X2 (which is more technically challenging) can be scaled down more easily to lower fitness / ability levels. Do fewer reps, lighter weights, etc. So you can work your way up.

That is 6-7 months of continuous high quality programming that builds out from a good foundation. It's well rounded, it doesn't force you to work overtired body parts again and again, and you get to work on balance, agility, body control, range of motion, and strength in a much more controlled (read that "less exhausted") way.
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p90x hybrids beast resistance cardio fitness
2/19/13 10:28 AM as a reply to RBroussard.
To the point of not understanding why so many are looking for hybrids, I suspect the answer in many instances is the same as mine: I am looking for resistance work variety. My goals align with P90X and P90X 2 but I've been doing P90X and P90X2 for two years. I turn 55 next week. I am not looking to add much size (maybe 5 pounds if muscle) and I enjoy the cardio fitness of running (I still run six minute miles). I need more variety in my resistance workouts and Body Beast appears to offer this if you can take the routines and alternate them as resistance routines with P90X. Has anyone tried using Body Beast routines on alternative days with cardio as an alternative to P90X?
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2/20/13 9:53 AM as a reply to Saxonmonk.
I do. I like the Body Beast workouts a bit more than P90X because they are so much shorter. But I've been mixing up Beast, Insanity, and P90X for a while now. I understand I am compromising each of the programs by doing this, but whatever, it's meeting my goals.
Lately my current routine looks like this:
Day 1: Bulk chest
Day 2: Bulk legs
Day 3: Bulk back
Day 4: Insanity Pure Cardio or Plyometric Cardio Circuit, followed by Ab Ripper X
Day 5: Bulk chest (I double up on the Chest workouts as I'm trying to get more definition)
Day 6: Bulk arms
Day 7: Bulk shoulders
Day 8: One of the Insanity workouts, sometimes max cardio conditioning, with Ab Ripper X
Then repeat the cycle
Sometimes I do P90X plyo instead, for variety, and sometimes I do Beast Abs or Beast Cardio
I also throw in an hour of yoga as a "double" workout around once every 10 days, or maybe just take a rest day and do only yoga.
The only thing I've found is I can't go more than about 9-10 days without repeating a muscle group, or else it will be really sore the next time I do it.

In terms of results, I'm not seeing the bulk or weight gains you would see if you did the Beast program as written, nor am I seeing the cardio gains you'd get from doing Insanity as written, but I'm happy to be blending them, slowly gaining muscle while keeping pretty lean and mean on the cardio front.
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