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5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
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I'm 5 weeks into my insanity program but have not lost any weight or inches. Just before starting insanity I came off the hcg diet, I lost 90 pounds on it but I spent that time very sick and weak even hospitalized twice. I want to stay off it but I am not losing weight, I am currently maintaing a 1500 calorie paleo diet. The paleo is to help control my diabetes but I worry about that fat content( paleo diet is 30-40% fat)I have already asked my dr. and they say "do whatever works". I am still almost 200 pounds and obveously need to lose a good 50 pounds. When I left the hcg program I was assured I wouldn't lose the rest until I came back. I love the insanity workouts, I feel stronger but really need help tweaking my nutrition program. I REALLy dont want to have to do anymore hcg to lose my ladt 50! Can anyone offer any advise?
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/15/12 9:36 PM as a reply to SuSu12.
Did you use the calculators here on the site? 1500 calories seems a little low for someone doing insanity...if you dont eat enough and workout that hard your body will store anything it can to fuel the stress you are putting it under...by calculating the correct amount of calories per day ..your body can relax and shed excess calories/weight. I highly recommend finding out what you need..if you dont know how..let me know here and I will help you
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 1:40 AM as a reply to Paqua.
I aim for 1500 hundred because the calculation I got from the insanity booklet was 1600 but the my fitnesspal app says 1200 I figured as long as I was inbetween I'd be good. I also don't understand the net calories thing, if I exercise more am I suppose to eat more than that. It's a bit puzzling to me. I was told I was suppose to burn more than I'm eating in order to lose weight and is the car/Protien/ fat ratio as important as the total calorie consumption? I haven't bean able to get a HRM yet I got from different forums that the calories burned on the insanity program ranged from 300-1000 calories burned so I've felt like I'm shooting in the dark. Lots of guess work!
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 1:44 AM as a reply to SuSu12.
I'd honestly say shoot to get in at least 1500-1700 calories a day! 1500 does sound too low! Especially when doing a program like Insanity! If you eat too little than you actually will have a harder time losing weight due to sending your body into starvation mode! Are you still doing the 5 meals a day?
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 1:54 AM as a reply to SuSu12.
SuSu,

Keep up the great work! I experienced a similar problem, though not to your extent. What finally was the breakthrough for me was not just the number of calories but when I consumed them and how liquid they were. I followed Dr. Junger's Clean program. He has a very thorough book simply titled "Clean" that I recommend. That said, the midst of the insanity program is likely not the best time to do Dr. Junger's cleanse. But he maintenance concepts and recipes are worth trying. He advocates putting the solid food intake in the middle of the day, lots of water, eating 2-3 hours before bedtime, and always leaving at least 12 hours between our last intake at night and our first intake (except water / tea) the next morning. I've been using those with insanity and it seems to be working just fine.

Best,

Wayne
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 9:03 AM as a reply to SuSu12.
First of all, I'm going to burst your bubble about HCG. I know it's important that whatever you do to lose weight, that you firmly 'believe' it works, but for your own health and good I'm gonna tell you it's a big scam.

They've done placebo test studies on HCG and both groups lost the exact same weight. There's no "Magic drop" that's going to do it. It was the extreme caloric deficit that did it, but that isn't healthy. Your body is burning all kinds of muscle too.

If you took body fat caliper readings on a weekly basis you'd see all kinds of lean weight goin' bye bye.

Since you just started Insanity coming from a very, very unhealthy diet your muscles were previously almost constantly depleted of glycogen on a regular basis. Now you're throwing them into a very demanding workout like Insanity so they're loading up on fuel to meet this demand.

One thing you need to do is put the scale away for a little while, or at least equip yourself mentally to better understand the scale, and embrace the fact that it can't reveal progress all the time.

I get it that you're 5 weeks in now, but I'd also tweak your diet a little bit. You can comfortably and easily lose weight with a little bit more carbs in your diet, since you're doing HIIT training on a regular basis. Insanity is very physically demanding in that regard, especially since you're about to start month 2.

If I were in your shoes, I would immediately switch my diet to 30% protein, 40% carb, 30% fat and up my calories to 1800 for the last month of Insanity.

After you finish Insanity I would then switch over to a weight training regimen to rocket boost your results to light speed.

If you like to work out from home, P90X is a great option for this. But you need to take great care that you pay attention to form, and lift heavy enough to challenge yourself. Again, as you near the end of Insanity, you need to prepare to start weight lifting to blast through your plateau.

If you can't afford a set of dumbbells / pullup bar you can join a gym and have one of their trainers help set you up with a full body routine. Again, switch things around mentally to prepare for the fact that you need to focus on at least 60% or more of your training schedule involving weight training.

Our body's will adapt to the stress presented to them. Jumpin' around and joggin' will burn a little bit of fat, but only so much. We need to present it with the stress of intense weight training movements so that it 'adapts' by building more muscle, and changing our body composition. 5 minutes on google will show you I am correct on this. (Hell, it's why P90X is the #1 in home fitness program, it has minimal cardio / hiit training and mostly weight training! For everyone that says plyo or kenpo is 'easy' I tell em', THAT'S WHY IT'S BETTER!)

If you want to eat Paleo that's fine, just make sure you're getting your calories and your macros in and eating clean foods. If you're not tracking, start immediately. No eyeballing, no guessing, no measuring cups or spoons. Weigh things on a scale (preferably digital) in grams or ounces. Watch the results abound all over your body.
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 9:04 AM as a reply to SuSu12.
SuSu12:
I aim for 1500 hundred because the calculation I got from the insanity booklet was 1600 but the my fitnesspal app says 1200 I figured as long as I was inbetween I'd be good. I also don't understand the net calories thing, if I exercise more am I suppose to eat more than that. It's a bit puzzling to me. I was told I was suppose to burn more than I'm eating in order to lose weight and is the car/Protien/ fat ratio as important as the total calorie consumption? I haven't bean able to get a HRM yet I got from different forums that the calories burned on the insanity program ranged from 300-1000 calories burned so I've felt like I'm shooting in the dark. Lots of guess work!


Don't bother tracking exercise calories burned, it's an absolute and complete waste of time and only another source of confusion. Tracking them is futile because the ones you burn 'during' exercise are irrelevant due to the additional calories exercise causes you to burn around the clock.

MFP is a great app, but don't let it figure out your calories for you, stick to the Harris Benedict for that. And that should have been a lot more than 1600 if you said you're close to 200lbs doing Insanity, unless I missed something.

You can try 1600 though and see how that works, but month 2 Insanity I'd be doing something like 1800 calories at 30/40/30 (p/c/f) on workout days. And on rest days or recovery workout days I'd go down to like 1500 at 50/30/20 ratios.

Be careful about 'diet fads' too. That has never and will never be the answer!
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 9:21 AM as a reply to Jacob83.
Jacob's advice is spot on. You need to focus on finding a virtuous balance between your calories burned and your calories eaten. You are going to need to tinker around with your intake a bit to find that number. I highly suggest you try zig-zagging your calories to find what is right for you. READ THIS LINK.
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 9:54 AM as a reply to SuSu12.
The HGC diet has you taking in very restricted calories. Like under 750 a day, correct? We need at least 950 calories a day to even give enough fuel to have our brain function normally over a long period of time (our brains use glycogen as fuel)... Eating that low of calroies for a long period of time is so dangerous, and wreaks havoc on our metabolism. Anything below 1200 calories is VERY UNHEALTHY, and even then I am not sure that most healthy active adults will get what they need out of 1200 calories a day.

If you are exercising you need to eat. I know that is scary. We get conditioned into thinking that if we eat a lot of food (even if it is "clean", good for your food) we are going to put on weight. Not true.

If you are doing INSANITY you need to fuel your body for these workouts. Shedding body fat is going to take time. It will not be an overnight even, or even in a month. I like the show "Biggest Looser" but loosing 10 pounds a week or more for several weeks in a row is not realistic... In normal, daily living we are not spending 6 hours in a gym training and have our meals controled for us.

I worry alittle about fad diets, and Paleo is one of these that cause me concern. Don't get me wrong, there are some good points about it, but there are a lot of things I don't like about it, and I worry about their research and where they have pulled their data. It falls into the realm of the "Atkins", "South Beach, " and other diets that have come and gone.

The best diet is the one that is balanced, Getting in enough carbs/protein/fats is always the safest way to drop body fat and keep it sustained. Usually when people are done dieting and go back to "normal" eating it causes people to pack on the weight again.
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 12:28 PM as a reply to DChavez1189.
DChavez1189:
I'd honestly say shoot to get in at least 1500-1700 calories a day! 1500 does sound too low! Especially when doing a program like Insanity! If you eat too little than you actually will have a harder time losing weight due to sending your body into starvation mode! Are you still doing the 5 meals a day?

Yes I am eating 5 meals a day even if I have to squeeze it in by drinking a whey protein drink. That bit I've bean doing since I was 11 years old ( its essential in keeping stable blood sugars) I actually use to eat 6 times a day but eventually cut out my bedtime snack to try and lose weight. Sounds like I need to try and seek in more calories each meal. It won't hurt to try it for a week or two to see if it works. Thanks so much for your input!
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 12:39 PM as a reply to WSHaney.
WSHaney:
SuSu,

Keep up the great work! I experienced a similar problem, though not to your extent. What finally was the breakthrough for me was not just the number of calories but when I consumed them and how liquid they were. I followed Dr. Junger's Clean program. He has a very thorough book simply titled "Clean" that I recommend. That said, the midst of the insanity program is likely not the best time to do Dr. Junger's cleanse. But he maintenance concepts and recipes are worth trying. He advocates putting the solid food intake in the middle of the day, lots of water, eating 2-3 hours before bedtime, and always leaving at least 12 hours between our last intake at night and our first intake (except water / tea) the next morning. I've been using those with insanity and it seems to be working just fine.

Best,

Wayne


Thanks, I think this book could be quotes useful and I'm sure I could stand to do the cleanse inbetween exercise programs since I'm consuming so much protein and dairy. Those can be harsh on ones system. I will definatly snag myself a copy of this book!
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 12:56 PM as a reply to Jacob83.
Jacob83:
SuSu12:
I aim for 1500 hundred because the calculation I got from the insanity booklet was 1600 but the my fitnesspal app says 1200 I figured as long as I was inbetween I'd be good. I also don't understand the net calories thing, if I exercise more am I suppose to eat more than that. It's a bit puzzling to me. I was told I was suppose to burn more than I'm eating in order to lose weight and is the car/Protien/ fat ratio as important as the total calorie consumption? I haven't bean able to get a HRM yet I got from different forums that the calories burned on the insanity program ranged from 300-1000 calories burned so I've felt like I'm shooting in the dark. Lots of guess work!


Don't bother tracking exercise calories burned, it's an absolute and complete waste of time and only another source of confusion. Tracking them is futile because the ones you burn 'during' exercise are irrelevant due to the additional calories exercise causes you to burn around the clock.

MFP is a great app, but don't let it figure out your calories for you, stick to the Harris Benedict for that. And that should have been a lot more than 1600 if you said you're close to 200lbs doing Insanity, unless I missed something.

You can try 1600 though and see how that works, but month 2 Insanity I'd be doing something like 1800 calories at 30/40/30 (p/c/f) on workout days. And on rest days or recovery workout days I'd go down to like 1500 at 50/30/20 ratios.

Be careful about 'diet fads' too. That has never and will never be the answer!


Thanks for all your sound advise! I will be upping my calories. It's quite a relief to not bother with figuring out the difference between resting metabolisms and calories burnt in workouts and changing calories to suite. I do have to be careful about the amount and kinds of carbs, I have a wonderful assortment of allergies but I will deffinatly try and raise my carbs via veggies. Thanks again!
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RE: 5 weeks into my insanity but worried about my diet, help
11/16/12 1:23 PM as a reply to DealDiehl.
DealDiehl:
The HGC diet has you taking in very restricted calories. Like under 750 a day, correct? We need at least 950 calories a day to even give enough fuel to have our brain function normally over a long period of time (our brains use glycogen as fuel)... Eating that low of calroies for a long period of time is so dangerous, and wreaks havoc on our metabolism. Anything below 1200 calories is VERY UNHEALTHY, and even then I am not sure that most healthy active adults will get what they need out of 1200 calories a day.

If you are exercising you need to eat. I know that is scary. We get conditioned into thinking that if we eat a lot of food (even if it is "clean", good for your food) we are going to put on weight. Not true.

If you are doing INSANITY you need to fuel your body for these workouts. Shedding body fat is going to take time. It will not be an overnight even, or even in a month. I like the show "Biggest Looser" but loosing 10 pounds a week or more for several weeks in a row is not realistic... In normal, daily living we are not spending 6 hours in a gym training and have our meals controled for us.

I worry alittle about fad diets, and Paleo is one of these that cause me concern. Don't get me wrong, there are some good points about it, but there are a lot of things I don't like about it, and I worry about their research and where they have pulled their data. It falls into the realm of the "Atkins", "South Beach, " and other diets that have come and gone.

The best diet is the one that is balanced, Getting in enough carbs/protein/fats is always the safest way to drop body fat and keep it sustained. Usually when people are done dieting and go back to "normal" eating it causes people to pack on the weight again.


The diet is less than 750 per day, it's actually only 500 calories a day. And yes is is so very scary to even consider eating more to lose weight. Infact there was a lots of maintanence training to keep weight off after that diet, to include daily weigh ins. Those have made me very paranoide about my weight. The paleo diet however I adopted after lots of experimenting with what offered me better blood sugar control. While I prefer the Mediterranean diet my diabetes won't stand for it, even some healthy carbs ( sweet potatoes, brown rice , most fruits) spike my sugars and left ill for days. It's something like being stuck in a drunkn stooper without the fun of drinking. Listening to everyone's wonderful advise I'm considering trying to up my carb ratio through veggies like carrots, beets, and squash. Hopefully these will have enough fiber to keep my sugars from spiking. Whatever "diet" I choose it will be a lifestyle. I suppose I should use the term " meal plan". I have some concerns about the paleo too particularly the fat content but since my blood sugars are better on it I'm looking for help to tweak it so I can still lose weight and not fall over from the cholesterol content. Thanks for your incouragement!
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