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Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
I am wondering if anyone has attempted this program while having this issue or anything similar.

I have completed p90x, p90x 2 and asylum but a few weeks back I injured my right knee, I've rested it and even went to physio therapy. The therapist said my biggest issue was having week hips and my knees would not track properly because of this. So I have been doing the hip exercises she recomended and some yoga over the past couple weeks to help it.

I plan on starting body beast on January 1st (new years resolution for the win) My question is will this program potentially be detrimental to my knee? I know to obviously practice proper form and be careful, but at the same rate hypertrophy is something I've never really been concerned with until recently. I feel building the muscle in my quads would help but I'm also concerned it may worsen the condition.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

And if it helps these are my stats.

age: 23
height: 5'7
weight: 138 lbs
body fat % 10

Thanks in advance!
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/20/12 6:54 PM as a reply to Jcluett.
There are quite a few lunges, step ups, squats, etc., where you will have to be very careful with your form. You may want to modify the program slightly to maintain knee safety - maybe slow down the program, not do so many consecutive reps where form becomes more of an issue, etc. On the non-leg days, you really shouldn't have much to worry about. I'd definitely clear it with a doctor or your therapist first, though.
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/20/12 7:09 PM as a reply to Jcluett.
I assume from your lack of mentioning it, that you don't have a meniscus or ligament problem. What did the Doctor diagnose with your knee? I specialize in soft tissue injuries and biomechanics; Wondering if your problem is really coming from a quadraceps imbalance ... not the hip itself. If really coming from the quads, that can be effectively resolved. I am currently doing Body beast program.
-Dr Chaz
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/21/12 2:34 AM as a reply to Chaz29212.
The ligaments are fine, she did a test to ensure that. There is a slight imbalance in strength between my right and left quads. But the therapist said that was caused by my right hip being weak.

For instance if I were to do a one legged squat, on the way down my form was good, but coming up my knee would go in because my hip isn't have the strength to stabilize it. So that combined with my feet pronating due to bad foot ware is apparently what caused my issue.

Do you know if this sort of thing is something that will always be on going? Or will it go back to 100 % if I go through the proper steps?
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/21/12 7:18 AM as a reply to Jcluett.
Patella tendonitis is a very common problem that most everyone suffers from at some point. It usually caused from a tight IT band, and muscle imbalances in your hips, quads, hams. I would recommend that you invest in a Foam Roller for $30. This is a great way to introduce corrective stretching into your workout routine. This technique will help reduce the knots in your muscles causing the tendonitis, therefor should reduce the knee pain. I get this tendonitis all the time and when I foam roll my legs, it goes way.

Coach Jeff
CPT, PES
motivFIT
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/21/12 9:07 AM as a reply to CoachJeffMorgan.
I do have a rumble roller that I got with p90x 2. I find that it does help but the pain comes back within a couple hours. I do it every day along with hip exercises.

I am wondering if a knee brace would potentially help with the issue?
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/22/12 6:24 AM as a reply to Jcluett.
i got patellar tendinitis in my right knee from doing the step up's in the last phase of P90X2 using a chair that was too tall. it lasted a few months but eventually went away. once i started Body Beast about 3 months later i was worried about the step up's in the "Build" phase but gave them a try anyway stepping up on my couch which is lower than the chair and keeps my knee slightly below my hip at the highest point. that made all the difference. i completed my first round of BB last thursday and haven't had any knee problems since.
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/25/12 6:28 AM as a reply to dirtydon.
I have it too in my right knee. It really creeped back up after 4 months on Insanity and jogging. I switched to Body Beast and havent had any issues regarding it since.
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RE: Body Beast and Patellar tendinitis?
11/28/12 5:17 PM as a reply to Jcluett.
There's a good possibility, one which I often see clinically, where your quads are imbalanced. Good possibility your lateral Quad (Vastus Lateralis) is actually denser and tighter which also makes it weak. The tissue may have been used more (ex. cycling works the lateral quad a lot), gets fibrotic tissue developing in it which makes it dense and tight, it also makes it harder to fire/contract hence the weakness. Attempting to strengthen it will add to the problem - a mistake, you actually need to regain flexibility. I suggest foam rolling the lateral quad and stretching as follows: standing and braced with same side hand to a wall, flex/bend knee grabbing the foot with opposite hand and stretch the quad behind toward your opposite hip... this will stretch the lateral quad effectively. If the issue persists, check out www.activerelease.com which includes a search engine for soft tissue specialists that can remedy the issue in a treatment or two. Best wishes.
Jcluett:
The ligaments are fine, she did a test to ensure that. There is a slight imbalance in strength between my right and left quads. But the therapist said that was caused by my right hip being weak.

For instance if I were to do a one legged squat, on the way down my form was good, but coming up my knee would go in because my hip isn't have the strength to stabilize it. So that combined with my feet pronating due to bad foot ware is apparently what caused my issue.

Do you know if this sort of thing is something that will always be on going? Or will it go back to 100 % if I go through the proper steps?
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