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Re-gained weight since P90x
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Re-gained weight since P90x
p90xvsp90x2
12/25/12 5:55 PM
I've been doing P90x, but I simply cannot lose the weight I regained during a 2 month vacation (and no workout). I am really committed and want to get rid of it and go back to my ideal weight, which is about 20 lbs less. Like I said, I have done P90x, every workout, forever, but it's simply not working anymore. If I am honest, I haven't followed the diet plan to the point, but I haven't been eating bad. I still follow michi's ladder, but I know I am not as strict as I used to be.

This time around, I plan to follow the diet plan and every workout. Question is, should I do P90X or P90X2?

Thanks
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/26/12 6:04 AM as a reply to Admir.
Hi Admir,

I will say...you must keep to the eating plan as much or even more than the workouts themselves...that is the way you really will loose that weight and see the results you want. You first need to ensure you calculate your caloric intake and then match to the macro-nutrient ratio (protein/carb/fat) per the plan as close as you can. I see some folks simply match the calories but are way too heavy in Carbs or Fat. I cannot stress the importance of this enough.

As for which program, I will say that if weight loss is your key goal I found X2 better for that myself. X2 is really focused on the core so much more and it really helped me cut up.

Finding a great support group is also important so you have a place for accountability, support and motivation. We have a great group of folks that help each other out. Let me know and I will shoot you the link.

Let me know if I can be of any help.

--Mike
Team Engage
P90X Certified
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/26/12 12:31 PM as a reply to Admir.
Admir:
I've been doing P90x, but I simply cannot lose the weight I regained during a 2 month vacation (and no workout). I am really committed and want to get rid of it and go back to my ideal weight, which is about 20 lbs less. Like I said, I have done P90x, every workout, forever, but it's simply not working anymore. If I am honest, I haven't followed the diet plan to the point, but I haven't been eating bad. I still follow michi's ladder, but I know I am not as strict as I used to be.

This time around, I plan to follow the diet plan and every workout. Question is, should I do P90X or P90X2?

Thanks


I agree - nutrition is essential. Are you tracking? You can be eating healthy and consuming too many calories. Overall P90x is more for weight loss. P90x2 it more for althethic performance. Overall you will lose weight on both it you follow the nutrition plan as close as possible. At minimum the calorie amount and the ideal ratios. Which program are you leaning towards?

Cheers!
Christina
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/26/12 5:06 PM as a reply to CoachCBove.
Thank you both. I decided to go with P90X again. But this time I will track everything using MyFitnessPal. I converted the blocks protein/carbs/fat into actual grams, so I know my limits. I did this using the P90X2 nutrition guide. I came up with Level 3, which is 313g protein, 155g carbs and 69g fat. This is way easier to track than the blocks, or at least that's what I noticed.
And, yes I'd like the link to the support group. I haven't done that before, so maybe that will help me from getting discouraged when the results don't kick in as much as I expect them to.
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/26/12 5:35 PM as a reply to Admir.
You already have some great advice about getting real strict with the nutrition aspect of the plan. How tall are you and how much do you weigh?

I lost 40 Lbs so far with P90X classic, I'm on my second round. The reason I ask is I started at level 2 and I was 5'10" and 235, I dropped to level 1 when I got around 218. I had hit a bit of a "scale slump" and recalculated my needs based on the drop of the first 17 Lbs.

Also remember that the nutrition guide "Does NOT include a calorie deficit". So if you want to lose weight you need to adjust your calories and lower the number by about 500 calories a day to drop 1-2 Lbs a week. Don't go too low however in an attempt to lose the weight faster because you will run out of gas on the workouts which will be counter productive.

Keep it up and don't get discouraged.

You can do this!

Coach Geoff
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/26/12 5:43 PM as a reply to Admir.
Admir:
Thank you both. I decided to go with P90X again. But this time I will track everything using MyFitnessPal. I converted the blocks protein/carbs/fat into actual grams, so I know my limits. I did this using the P90X2 nutrition guide. I came up with Level 3, which is 313g protein, 155g carbs and 69g fat. This is way easier to track than the blocks, or at least that's what I noticed.
And, yes I'd like the link to the support group. I haven't done that before, so maybe that will help me from getting discouraged when the results don't kick in as much as I expect them to.


Great...here is the link...check it out and jump on board with us! Thread

--Mike
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/26/12 6:22 PM as a reply to CoachCane.
I'm 5'10" and 235, just like you were. The calc came to 3420, which is a level 3. I did read somewhere that there is a 500calorie/day deficiency recommended in order to lose weight. Do you recommend to go with Level 2 instead?
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/26/12 6:26 PM as a reply to Admir.
I just recalculated it. For Level 2, I have to be at 300/150/67, which is pretty close to what I had. The ratio I used is 50% protein, 25% carbs and fat. I know P90X guide says to use 50/30/20, but P90X2 says 50/25/25, and I read on some fitness websites that P90X2 nutrition guide is better. What do you guys recommend?
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/27/12 3:49 AM as a reply to Admir.
Hi Admir,

What is your age as well? In the P90X2 calculation you do enter a caloric deficit (500 is typical to start with) as this is in step #4. I personally like the Harris method of calculating caloric intake (same one Insanity uses) so shoot me your age and I will calculate it that way too.

You can certainly start with 50/25/25 but I would not recommend being on that for the whole program. That is very high in protein and something you want to reduce after 1 month. I personally think 40/40/20 is a good middle road for many folks.

--Mike
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/27/12 4:26 AM as a reply to CoachMikeMJM.
I'm turning 30 in April, wuah wuah emoticon

I realized today that I cannot run a 5k and do plyometrics 9 hours later. I guess those days are gone. I almost didn't make it today, almost. I'd like to do the 50/25/25 for the first phase, then go down to something with more carbs. But there is definitely some stubborn fat that I am carrying, so I hope that first phase will knock some of it off.
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/27/12 4:36 AM as a reply to Admir.
Yup...things change a bit as we get older don't they :-) Ok...I calculate that you should be taking in around 2900 calories a day which includes a 500/day deficit. This is calculated using the Harris Benedict Equation and also takes into account you are pushing yourself really hard in the workouts. That is level C in the P90X2 guide. Remember you want to ensure you take in enough calories so you have the needed energy to push yourself hard in the workouts, and most importantly that you do not have your body store fat thinking it will not get enough calories. Sometimes this sounds strange that eating a bit more (but healthy) actually helps you loose weight but it does.

Try that out for 4 weeks and see how that goes. Everyone is different and these are guidelines that are meant to address the majority of the folks but you may have to tweak it along the way. You don't want to tweak things too often though.

--Mike
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/27/12 4:51 AM as a reply to CoachMikeMJM.
need to correct this...that is level B...good catch
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RE: Re-gained weight since P90x
12/27/12 6:47 AM as a reply to Admir.
From my personal experience I started at 2400 calories and then dropped to 2100 and then to 1800. Each of us is different, you can start at the higher calorie level and see how that is working for you. If you need to adjust start with a week of dropping another 300 calories a day. As long as you have enough energy to really push yourself through the workouts then go for the adjustment if you need to see greater results in the fat loss department.

Also keep in mind that the scale should NOT be your only measuring stick. use the tape measure and how your clothes are fitting as benchmarks as well.

During this second round I haven't seen any movement in the scale so far but man have I seen physical changes. I had to punch another set of holes in my belt and my quads are getting absolutely solid with a lot more muscle and a lot less fat.

In the first month I've lost another inch on my belly and gained another half inch on my biceps. Muscle is twice as dense as fat and therefore takes up less space.

If you are an MMA fan consider Georges "rush" St. Pierre, he is 5' 11" and 170 lbs, but it is solid muscle, dude look awesome.

You will reach a stage where your scale doesn't move but it's because you are gaining muscle and losing the same mass in fat. This is a good thing as the increased muscle helps you burn fat.

Coach Geoff
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