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When, besides never, is the best time to drink a beer?
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This thread isn't a joke but a serious question I have. As a German, I naturally adore both the process of brewing as well as the finished product. (And artisan bread baking as well for that matter.) I am the first to admit that, in the past, over consumption of beer has led me to become what I'm now trying to get rid of. Yet, I cannot imagine a life completely without it. That's why I'm hoping I can gain insight into where in my days I could best fit in a cold one.

I remember a particular bike race where, after crossing the finish line, you could get alcohol-free wheat beer as a "recovery drink". Of course, that was in Germany!

I do my P90X workouts after work, in the early afternoon. I start around 4 or 5 PM. My recovery drink is usually the last source of carbs I have in a day. Would a beer, in addition to my recovery drink, right after my workouts make the most sense?

Also, on P90X cardio days (Plyo, Kenpo, etc), I throw in an additional pull-up strengthening routine in the morning, three times a week. I figured that the extra calories I burn there could offset the beer in the afternoon.

What do you guys think? Please take me seriously. I'm not talking about getting hammered here .. to me personally, an occasional beer really is just something important. Thanks!!
Chris.
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RE: When, besides never, is the best time to drink a beer?
1/1/13 6:15 PM as a reply to snucky.
It's not something that will kill you. Usually I make weekends the time to have a cheat time except for when I'm coming onto the on season... as soon as I hit maintenance I have a couple cheat times a weekend.. Nothing too drastic.

Don't think about it too much and just look toward your goal.
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1/2/13 1:49 PM as a reply to snucky.
thanks - would anybody comment on the value of beer in terms of it possible being a "recovery drink" or when else in the day it would be best to have a 12 oz bottle? I realize it's a cheat-food but I imagine it's better at some times during the day than right before bed. Here's a rough draft of my average day:

right after waking up - orange

breakfast (8:30) - complex carbs + protein, some fats

snack (11:15) - smoothie with whole vegetables, fruit, whey powder and 1% milk

lunch (13:30)- complex carbs, veges, protein, some fats (usually from scratch meal/soup with legumes)

workout (16:00), followed by recovery drink

dinner (18:30) - raw veges and protein (usually meat, fish and/or eggs)

bedtime - 1/4c cottage cheese, some fats
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1/2/13 2:02 PM as a reply to snucky.
Beer isn't necessarily a BAD recovery drink in that it hydrates you, tastes good on a hot day, and has plenty of simple carbs. But it doesn't have any protein, so there goes the recovery drink 4/1 carb to protein ratio. If you were to knock back a shooter of protein powder to make the ratio work you might be on to something. And a good German wurst would work except for the fat content, which inhibits the protein uptake. The most important thing, really, is to just make sure you're accounting for the calories when you drink a beer. Just like with sodas, it's easy to let an extra 300 - 500 liquid calories slip into your diet unaccounted for if you aren't aware.
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1/4/13 10:04 AM as a reply to AdStaffAndrew.
thanks man! I might end up using beer as a "cheat"-recovery drink occasionally and then add a shot of whey afterwards. I reckon it's still way inferior to the P90X recovery formula so I'll try to not do this very often. And, yea, I account for 220 cals from the recovery drink in my days.
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1/4/13 10:06 AM as a reply to snucky.
Let me know if that works for you. "Recovery Beer" has a nice ring to it.
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1/5/13 6:23 PM as a reply to snucky.
one way to allow yourself some beer once in a while is to simply include these calories in your meal plan. for example, if you know you are going to a party on Friday night then perhaps you can eat smaller breakfast and lunch that day to allow for more calories later at night. Make sure you stop at one beer and don't make it a keg emoticon

my personal cheat meal is ice cream - I eat ice cream occasionally and when I do I reserve some extra room for it by either eating less before or paying for it later in gym the day after emoticon
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1/7/13 7:12 AM as a reply to snucky.
I will have a beer every so often. Last year, I bowled on a league in the winter, and golfed on a league in the summer. During the summer golf months, I'd have a few beers maybe, lighter ones, but would count these in my calories, so I'd eat less during the day. But I also walked in my league so I could burn them off a little easier emoticon

I still lost 84 lbs last year, so it isn't like beer will completely ruin your results in my opinion, but just don't have 3 craft beers a day and not workout or something like that. Those craft beer calories (150-200 calories per beer), add up quickly!
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1/7/13 8:34 AM as a reply to BBCoachEZ.
I extended my research a little further and found that in order for beer to quality as a "recovery drink" it's crucial that it's non-alcoholic. Alcohol as a toxin in the body stops the metabolism until its fully digested by the liver. Also, one gram of alcohol counts as 7 calories and, worse, are of no use to the body at all. So, while the calories from carbs in beer have decent qualities as a recovery drink, the calories from alcohol don't and in fact are counterproductive as they set back your metabolism.

An average 12 fl oz beer contains about 16g of alcohol (4.5% by volume * 355ml = 15.97g), which translates to 112 empty calories from alcohol.

In conclusion then, a regular beer qualifies as nothing more than a "cheat meal" while non-alcoholic beer, when paired with a shot of whey in water, makes for a decent recovery drink!
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1/7/13 11:22 AM as a reply to snucky.
Thanks for doing the homework.

snucky:
I extended my research a little further and found that in order for beer to quality as a "recovery drink" it's crucial that it's non-alcoholic. Alcohol as a toxin in the body stops the metabolism until its fully digested by the liver. Also, one gram of alcohol counts as 7 calories and, worse, are of no use to the body at all. So, while the calories from carbs in beer have decent qualities as a recovery drink, the calories from alcohol don't and in fact are counterproductive as they set back your metabolism.

An average 12 fl oz beer contains about 16g of alcohol (4.5% by volume * 355ml = 15.97g), which translates to 112 empty calories from alcohol.

In conclusion then, a regular beer qualifies as nothing more than a "cheat meal" while non-alcoholic beer, when paired with a shot of whey in water, makes for a decent recovery drink!
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1/7/13 11:24 AM as a reply to AdStaffAndrew.
By the way, here's a LINK to a fantastic article about the good and bad of beer by Denis Faye and Steve Edwards. Lot-o interesting information in there.
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RE: When, besides never, is the best time to drink a beer?
1/8/13 7:41 AM as a reply to snucky.
in addition to that alcohol also increases your chance of injuries. when I was going through USA Hockey coaching certification we had a presentation where they talked about how alcohol increases your chance of damaging your ligaments. if you can I would prescribe to stay away from it.

and yes, it is very calorie dense and it is only metabolized by your liver into the fatty acids so it cannot be used for energy by your muscles.
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RE: When, besides never, is the best time to drink a beer?
1/8/13 10:02 AM as a reply to AlexanderGarbuz.
AlexanderGarbuz:
and yes, it is very calorie dense and it is only metabolized by your liver into the fatty acids so it cannot be used for energy by your muscles.


The body has a very hard time turning alcohol into fat. The reason people get fat when drinking is that a byproduct of alcohol is the "drunk munchies" and alcohol can easily put you over maintenance calories. Google "the truth about alcohol and fat loss" for a very scientific look at alcohol in regards to losing fat.
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