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P90X "easier" after a different workout program (e.g., Insanity)?
Just curious if anyone else has experienced the same sort of thing I have after doing and completing a different exercise program (e.g., Insanity, P90X2, etc.), then coming back to P90X.

In my case, after having over the last 21 months or so done P90X and P90X2, then just a couple weeks ago finishing Insanity, I started back doing a few P90X workouts (mainly the strength workouts such as Chest and Back, Back and Biceps, etc.) and found that in a noticeable way the P90X workouts were a tad bit easier than they had been prior to starting Insanity, even though I hadn't done a single P90X workout for 9+ weeks.

For example, with Chest and Back, in particular during the first set, but really throughout the whole workout, I found that the much-improved cardio I developed with Insanity greatly helped with push-ups, etc., even though I honestly was thinking going in that I wouldn't do as well (I figured my chest and triceps had gotten a bit weaker while doing Insanity, but I guess I was wrong). I mean, prior to Insanity, I would have to push pretty good to get to mid-30's push-ups-wise during the first set, but right out of the box I banged out 40 like it was nothing, and probably could have done a few more. And then afterwards I wasn't as wiped out between sets, slightly improving (or at least doing as well as) my previous Chest and Back workouts leading up to Insanity. Well, then I thought my shoulders probably weren't as strong either and that that would show during the Shoulders and Arms routine, but I improved with it as well!

The only areas I've seen a slight drop-off (or no improvement) have been when it comes to pull-ups/bar work and biceps-focused sets (but the drop-off wasn't as much as I thought it might be), but I imagine another week or two and I'll be at least right back where I was before, and maybe perhaps even slightly better.

Has anyone else experienced the same sort of "side-effect" to their P90X workouts from other exercise programs (in particular, of course, Beachbody workouts)? Just wandering...

I had already been planning on doing some sort of P90X/Insanity hybrid (I've previously read about it), but now I'm even more excited about doing so, as apparently the two compliment each other pretty well.

Joel
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RE: P90X
1/13/13 8:55 AM as a reply to shoemkr.
After another couple weeks of P90X workouts following finishing Insanity and I'm now slightly less an advocate of the thinking I shared in my original post. While, yes, certain aspects of certain portions of the P90X workouts are indeed a little "easier", overall, I believe in large part because I'm not keeping the same level of Insanity workouts, I'm not able to fully, continually reap the benefits of Insanity within the P90X workouts. I guess that would be the main benefit of doing the P90X/Insanity hybrid workout/schedule: one will benefit the other. Unfortunately, it appears as if my "stripped down" version of a hybrid (a couple P90X strength workouts and one Insanity session) doesn't work quite as well (I'm still seeing/feeling good results, but there certainly isn't anything getting any easier, but perhaps that's a good thing).

Anyone else have any thoughts on my findings/thoughts?
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RE: P90X
1/14/13 7:37 AM as a reply to shoemkr.
Hubby and I did P90x last November followed by a round of Insanity. We both felt like we lost muscle when we did Insanity so we did the hybrid. After Insanity, I wanted to maintain that level of Cardio workouts. I think it was hard for me to determine if they were 'easier' because some days I am just tired and it reflects in my workout. We are over a year later and have completed P90x, Insanity, a hybrid of the two and P90x2. I am taking this month to repeat the x2 discs so I can incorporate the core/balance moves into the P90x/Insanity hybrid that I am starting Feb 1.

What workouts are you doing? You mentions a modified hybrid.

CoachAzTami

YOU are the only thing standing in the way of meeting your goals...so get out of the way!
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RE: P90X
1/14/13 12:04 PM as a reply to shoemkr.
My "plan" each week, Tami, would be to do:

Week 1
Monday - P90X - Chest and Back
Wed. - P90X - Shoulders and Arms
Friday - Insanity workout (more than likely from the first month of Insanity)

Week 2
Monday - P90X - Chest, shoulders, and triceps
Wed. - P90X - Back and Biceps
Friday - A different Insanity workout (again most likely from the first month of Insanity)

Every now and then I'll be adding in Cardio Abs, too...perhaps as much as once each week.

I believe I saved a copy of the "unofficial" P90X/Insanity Hybrid calendar I found online awhile back, and I'll have to take a look at that and see what, if anything, I might want to change around.

At this point, following Insanity, I'd like to try and (at least for the most part) maintain my more "trim" physique, but focus more on muscle gain/building, hopefully not only gaining what I lost a little bit of during Insanity, but also moving past the plateau I had previously reached doing the same sort of "maintenance program" outlined above (the only difference being that I would do a non-Insanity cardio-type workout, sometimes something from P90X2, sometimes P90X Core Synergistics, etc.).

Right now I'm not wanting to do much more than 3-4 days each week, at least until my wife and/or I decide to start a new program together (or repeat one we've already done; for now she's going to continue doing Insanity workouts as much as she can - probably three days a week - to try and keep working off the baby weight she still has).

Any thoughts/recommendations on things I/we might consider changing? Thanks for your response, by the way!

Joel
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RE: P90X
1/15/13 7:36 PM as a reply to shoemkr.
shoemkr:
My "plan" each week, Tami, would be to do:

Week 1
Monday - P90X - Chest and Back
Wed. - P90X - Shoulders and Arms
Friday - Insanity workout (more than likely from the first month of Insanity)

Week 2
Monday - P90X - Chest, shoulders, and triceps
Wed. - P90X - Back and Biceps
Friday - A different Insanity workout (again most likely from the first month of Insanity)

Every now and then I'll be adding in Cardio Abs, too...perhaps as much as once each week.

I believe I saved a copy of the "unofficial" P90X/Insanity Hybrid calendar I found online awhile back, and I'll have to take a look at that and see what, if anything, I might want to change around.

At this point, following Insanity, I'd like to try and (at least for the most part) maintain my more "trim" physique, but focus more on muscle gain/building, hopefully not only gaining what I lost a little bit of during Insanity, but also moving past the plateau I had previously reached doing the same sort of "maintenance program" outlined above (the only difference being that I would do a non-Insanity cardio-type workout, sometimes something from P90X2, sometimes P90X Core Synergistics, etc.).

Right now I'm not wanting to do much more than 3-4 days each week, at least until my wife and/or I decide to start a new program together (or repeat one we've already done; for now she's going to continue doing Insanity workouts as much as she can - probably three days a week - to try and keep working off the baby weight she still has).

Any thoughts/recommendations on things I/we might consider changing? Thanks for your response, by the way!

Joel


I think this link should work for the P90x/Insanity hybrid:
http://www.beachbody.com/images/beachbody/en_us/pdf/worksheets/P90X_Insanity_Hybrid_Worksheets.pdf

It basically swaps out plyo and kenpo for insanity workouts. And it does the first month of Insanity for phase 1 and 2 and the second month 'max' insanity workouts the 3rd phase. I was thinking that I was going to do some Insanity month one workouts this month but then when we start the hybrid on Feb 1 do the 'max' workouts....I thought that until I did a couple of the month one workouts. They are really hard! I forgot how hard Shaun T pushes you!

Your plan follows the workouts in the phases so they look good to me! (you don't have the chest from phase 1 with the arms from phase 2...) I think it's important to combine the weights with cardio and you can't beat Insanity for cardio. I do think it's a good idea on the ab workout. I hate ab-ripper 3 times a week but I love the results. I think you guys are on the right track! How's your nutrition? That is just as important--one of my team members asked us to find one thing in our cupboard that is tempting and throw it away--I had to reply that we did this last year and just don't buy the stuff anymore!

Tami
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RE: P90X
1/25/13 6:15 AM as a reply to shoemkr.
Thank you for your reply, Tami (sorry for the delay in responding). Thanks for the link to the P90X/Insanity hybrid workout calendar (got it). I'm thinking of doing that leading up to my 20 yr. high school reunion this summer. The layout of the exercises certainly looks promising and I really don't see how I couldn't see results from it (based on how well things are going on with my "stripped-down" version of the same thing, that is alternating between P90X and Insanity workouts). And you're right about going back to the first month of Insanity workouts. I thought it'd be easier, but it's decidedly NOT. I found that if I did a couple Insanity workouts in a row (the second a couple days after the first), the second one wasn't as bad, but if I waited a week or so between Insanity sessions, they were BOTH hard. Looking back, I can see how important it is to do Insanity as often as the schedule tells you, otherwise you'd (or at least I'd) never get to the point to where I could do any of the MAX workouts.

Nutrition-wise, my wife and I are both pretty good. An occasional snack, but nothing to be guilt-ridden about, if you know what I mean. We don't have much junk food laying around tempting us and avoid fast food as much as possible. I may eat even better, though, come hybrid time, just to really see the best results possible.

Thanks again for your reply!

Joel
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