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Is there hope!!?
Is there hope!!?
body types calorie equation better fitness and nutrition calories in vs calories out
1/10/13 6:06 PM
Hi there! I guess I have more of a general question that I cant seem to find a solid answer to..along with a little venting ;) You always hear people say that to lose weight you have to burn more calories than you consume - the simple energy in vs energy out equation. However, from personal experience Im seeing that its not that simple, and Im hoping someone can send me to some credible sources that explain why. Basically Im wondering why if I were to eat the same as I had been, but add exercise (so burning more calories than I had been), why it would be so much effort to slim down... I completely understand that its important to eat healthy, and that the quality of the food matters, but just strictly speaking from a calories in vs calories out perspective, whats the deal? I am eating healthier, and will continue to improve in that area, but Im just trying to understand why just burning more calories doesnt do it.

Also, will my metabolism ever go back to what it was growing up? I couldnt gain weight if I tried and could literally eat whatever I wanted in whatever quantity. My relatives told me it wouldnt last forever, and sure enough in my early 20s I finally gained a bit of weight and hit my perfect weight. I had not changed anything.. my metabolism just changed. Then when I started noticing the weight little by little over the next couple of years, it took very little effort or exercise to lose the fat. And I still continued to eat whatever I wanted. Then as a few more years went by, the fat went on faster, and came off harder, but I still didnt focus enough on eating better... now at 29, Im finding I can work out way more than I ever thought Id need to, watch what I eat way more than I ever had to, and Im finding it all very hard. I dont shop much for new clothes - the dressing room brings me to tears. I wont wear a bathing suit without a baggy t-shirt.. I used to love getting a new bathing suit every summer. I dont enjoy dressing up and going out for drinks with friends or my boyfriend anymore - I dont feel good about myself, I just feel fat in my clothes. A picture of me over the holidays from behind really opened my eyes and made me realize its now or never..this is my year for change. When I turn 30 in November, I want to be in the best shape of my life.

Im currently doing Slim in 6. I plan to do 2 rounds of that, then P90X, then Insanity. I also have started jogging. Will it always require an effort now though? Basically its like Im an ectomorph that turned into a mesomorph, if you want to talk about body types. Is it possible to go back to being a skinny ectomorph? lol Or growing up was i just a mesomorph in training? I always thought body type was more or less genetic.. so how did mine change in the first place, and how do I change it back!!!

I have learned lots and gotten a lot of inspiration from these message boards.. maybe this form of support was the missing piece of the puzzle.
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1/11/13 2:37 AM as a reply to Simply4Life.
A lot of things can be attributed to exercising and eating right but not losing weight as you would like. Example a gain in muscle mass can make you the same weight but thinner over all or a thyroid issue that keeps the weight there. Have you checked if you lost any inches? Have you gotten your thyroid checked?

Another interesting thing that I found out is that not eating enough and over exercising can have a negative effect on losing weight. Say you only eat about 1200 calories a day to lose x amount of pound over time and exercise pretty hard, your body can go into starvation and your metabolism will slow down. here is a good blog to one

http://tomradford.hubpages.com/hub/Losing-Weight-is-Not-all-About-Eating-Less-and-Exercise

Try to find out whats your supposedly daily intact calories and subtract it by 200 to 500 calories for about 2 weeks to a month weigh yourself again and do the same thing over until you get to your desired weight.

Sopeahp N.
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1/11/13 6:36 AM as a reply to Simply4Life.
Are you tracking down your nutrition? What are you using?
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1/13/13 4:45 PM as a reply to sopheapngam.
Sopeahp, thanks for your reply.

I do agree that the number on the scale can be misleading, as I likely am gaining muscle mass... However why would it be so different now versus in the past when I could work out and drop extra pounds quicker? I did have my thyroid checked, and that all came back normal. My doctor just said eat better and exercise more...

The scale has not moved yet, mind you I just restarted the program Jan 1. I havent really lost any inches yet either - havent measured yet but my clothes are still tight. I find it very hard to tell though if it is all fat, or if Im just retaining a lot of fluid (I limit salt intake as much as possible). I will give the program the full 6 weeks, and see what it gives me for inches and weight loss. Just wondering if Ill every get back to being the skinny girl again or if thats impossible now..

The link you provided was interesting. I do think part of my problem has to do with hormones and blood glucose levels. Ive always been a sugar addict, and a caffeine addict too.. they are both things Im trying to cut back on. Overall, I dont sleep well. I tend to eat a lot of processed foods too. I have vowed this time around to really focus on cutting out take-out, and work on preparing more meals. Like I said though, I used to be able to eat take-out every day and it had no effect on me. Im wondering if there is a way to reset things, and get back to that kind of a metabolism (not to eat junk all the time, but so that I get lean without having to think about every single thing I eat).

Where I really wanted to see positive results this time, and havent yet quite mastered meal planning and cooking, Im actually taking Monavie RVL meal replacement shakes. It is similar to Shakeology. I dont want to turn this into a big debate over which product is better though.. I believe they are both good. When I finish Slim in 6, Ill transition into cooking and eating well.

When I use the BB calorie calculator, to lose a lot of weight or some weight, it tells me to consume between 1166-1400 or so calories..
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1/13/13 4:48 PM as a reply to Simply4Life.
I can completely understand your frustration as I felt that way for many years. I would "diet" and watch my calories just as you said. Burn more calories and watch the weight drop off. But then what happened was my weight would just come right back on. Over time this causes destruction on the body. The yo-yo effect can be detrimental. And even if you did not exactly do this per se, if you were eating the wrong kind of calories (as most people now do), then there could have been some damage to your metabolism.

BUT THERE IS HOPE!!! I started my journey with a very weak metabolism. But I decided that I was not going to do this the way I had tried so many times before. I was going to go clean and see if it made a difference. Well, it did! I honestly didn't know what I was doing at first! HAHA! But over time I really learned that I was treating my body as the way it was intended to be treated. Feeding it with the real food it meant to be fed as fuel. And not filling it with just chemicals and other stuff that has been created by people.

You have a vision of what you desire to do! The VISION is the first step in making this happen. I think you already realize that the food aspect is important, right? That the cleaner the better for the body??? Over time this will help your metabolism and also as you workout more you will be building muscle and this will also help you increase your metabolism, too! I sit here today in shock honestly thinking that I can eat so much. I never imagined that I could! And I believe that when you stick with your plan you will get there, too!!!

Keep hold of your VISION! One thing I had my Challengers do that they have said has really helped them has been to create a Vision Board. This really supports their dream and keeps them going rather than letting the frustrations and daily living get in the way. Because we all know there are hard times, but if you have that VISION right in front of you, you will see that you will be more motivated to keep on going on those harder days!!! emoticon
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1/13/13 4:49 PM as a reply to DominicDuclos.
Dominic, I havent been tracking it.. but Ill figure out how many calories Ive been consuming (as I said above Im taking meal replacement shakes now) but I should know what my snacks and dinner add up to. Ill start keeping track over the next few days to get an average, and see where I can go from there.

Thanks!
Jacqueline
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1/13/13 4:58 PM as a reply to Simply4Life.
Simply4life:

Your story is so similar to many people. A few things I'd like to add to give you a bit of encouragement on your journey.

We grew up in the age of sugar! The sweater the better - more sugar - more sugar.

Back in April of 2012 I cut all processed sugar out of my diet the best I could - cold turkey. No sugar in coffer/tea, no candy, no cookeis, no processed food, no white bread (has sugar too). if it had sugar in the ingredients I did not have it. it takes 2 weeks to detox sugar out of your system. I was a total addict. 12 hours after a sugar "injection" I would start craving it again.... literally. It's so like a drug but we never really pay that much attention to it.

After the 2 period I no longer craved it, and really did not miss it much. What I really found was that the weight DROPPED off!! My stomach is flatter and realy kick started my way to feeling better. I was no longer tired as much and felt like I had more energy.

This is just my personal experience- I cant say anyone else will have the same experience but I have had others try it and agree.

Also, you may not "cook" much but if you try and stick to food with 1 ingredient when possible that will help. for example: bananas have 1 ingredient - bananas, broccoli (which takes 3 minutes to cut and steam (or there is always frozen if needed) etc.

On sunday (or your weekend day) grill or cook some skinless boneless chicken breast , cool and refrig to use during the week in a salad.

Take out may be convenient - but if you plan in advance you'll find it's not too hard to avoid the take out. meal replacement shakes help a lot, hard boiled eggs, etc.

I hoep this helps. If you'd like send me a buddy request. I'm here if you need anything at all!

Coach Donna
Team Elite Home Fitness
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1/13/13 5:52 PM as a reply to JaimeGrossman.
JaimeGrossman:
I can completely understand your frustration as I felt that way for many years. I would "diet" and watch my calories just as you said. Burn more calories and watch the weight drop off. But then what happened was my weight would just come right back on. Over time this causes destruction on the body. The yo-yo effect can be detrimental. And even if you did not exactly do this per se, if you were eating the wrong kind of calories (as most people now do), then there could have been some damage to your metabolism.

BUT THERE IS HOPE!!! I started my journey with a very weak metabolism. But I decided that I was not going to do this the way I had tried so many times before. I was going to go clean and see if it made a difference. Well, it did! I honestly didn't know what I was doing at first! HAHA! But over time I really learned that I was treating my body as the way it was intended to be treated. Feeding it with the real food it meant to be fed as fuel. And not filling it with just chemicals and other stuff that has been created by people.

You have a vision of what you desire to do! The VISION is the first step in making this happen. I think you already realize that the food aspect is important, right? That the cleaner the better for the body??? Over time this will help your metabolism and also as you workout more you will be building muscle and this will also help you increase your metabolism, too! I sit here today in shock honestly thinking that I can eat so much. I never imagined that I could! And I believe that when you stick with your plan you will get there, too!!!

Keep hold of your VISION! One thing I had my Challengers do that they have said has really helped them has been to create a Vision Board. This really supports their dream and keeps them going rather than letting the frustrations and daily living get in the way. Because we all know there are hard times, but if you have that VISION right in front of you, you will see that you will be more motivated to keep on going on those harder days!!! emoticon


Great motivation and advice!!

Keep up the great work! I've got a message board thread started and would love anyone here to stop by and check it out!


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Coach Donna
Team Elite Home Fitness
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1/14/13 5:45 AM as a reply to Simply4Life.
Hello Jacqueline, If you aren't tracking down your nutrition how would you know if you are not eating too much or not enough?

Your macros could also be completely off. To lose weight you gotta be in a light-moderate caloric deficit and you want to eat a lot of protein and cut back on carbs and fat. Your macros should be 50% Protein / 30% Carbs / 20% Fat. Your body will use the carbs and fat for energy and use the protein for muscle repair and recovery.

I use myfitnesspal.com to track my nutrition, it is free and they even have an app for smartphone. You should check that out and track a few days to see how much calories you are actually eating and what are your macros.

I have added you as a buddy so we can message each other privately, Let me know how that comes out.
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1/14/13 1:04 PM as a reply to Simply4Life.
I'm going to go in another direction and you can take this simple approach for what its worth...Unless you've hit a plateau and you're trying to drop the last few pounds to reach a target weight or BF%, don't get caught up in all the calorie counting, meal tracking, macros and micro-managing.

1) Do your program every day, just "push play"
2) Eliminate all processed sugar from your daily meals
3) Eat a salad every day (no bacon, no croutons and no creamy dressings)
4) Avoid packaged meals, pork products and ground beef
5) Eliminate caffeine and drink at least half of your body weight in ounces of water daily
6) Eliminate refined carbs, such as white bread, pasta and boxed cereals.

By taking these simple (not necessarily easy, just not complex) steps you will increase your energy levels, ramp up your metabolism and naturally detox your body. When you eat whole foods and eat "clean", your body will naturally let you know when it needs more fuel instead of reacting to unnatural cravings and the best part is, you dont have to write a bunch of crap down and number crunch every meal.

my 2 cents...maybe 3
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