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p90x and piano playing
p90x and piano playing
p90x playing piano
1/15/13 12:29 PM
hello folks

on day 8 of p90x and actually kind of enjoying it!

Just a quick question for those of you who know about this sort of thing:

I'm a professional jazz pianist and over the last few days I've noticed that my "chops", ie my dexterity, speed and strength have all deteriorated quite badly...obviously this is a nightmare sort of scenario for me. I've done spurts of weight lifting at the gym before and stopped when I've felt like it's impacting on my playing. There's no way I want to stop p90x (though I suppose I could do the lean version, especially as my main motivation is to trim my stomach) but also there's no way I can deal with this. Will it go away? is it just a matter of the body adjusting to all this or by doing all this exercise will I lose dexterity and speed in my fingers as a bi-product?

Another reason why I was keen to do weights was that on certain pianos with heavy actions I feel like my chops are hindered. I figured that having a stronger core/back would help with this - but at the moment i'm worried that i'm doing a bad thing for my pianism.

obviously quite concerned so any helpful replies will be vastly appreciated.

edit - I did xstretch on my "day off" just incase anyone wonders if I'm stretching enough

thanks!

Stimpers
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RE: p90x and piano playing
1/15/13 1:06 PM as a reply to Stimpers86.
Congrats on starting P90X. It is taxing on the body and will slow you down on some days. Im not a musician but i can see where your coming from. It definitely should get better but not completely go away. You will probly have to get used to it and adapt a bit. But again im not a musician so im not exactly sure. I hope it gets worked out! Keep trying and adapting and hopefully it doesnt effect you to bad!

Corrie
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RE: p90x and piano playing
1/15/13 1:43 PM as a reply to Stimpers86.
Stimpers86:
hello folks

on day 8 of p90x and actually kind of enjoying it!

Just a quick question for those of you who know about this sort of thing:

I'm a professional jazz pianist and over the last few days I've noticed that my "chops", ie my dexterity, speed and strength have all deteriorated quite badly...obviously this is a nightmare sort of scenario for me. I've done spurts of weight lifting at the gym before and stopped when I've felt like it's impacting on my playing. There's no way I want to stop p90x (though I suppose I could do the lean version, especially as my main motivation is to trim my stomach) but also there's no way I can deal with this. Will it go away? is it just a matter of the body adjusting to all this or by doing all this exercise will I lose dexterity and speed in my fingers as a bi-product?

Another reason why I was keen to do weights was that on certain pianos with heavy actions I feel like my chops are hindered. I figured that having a stronger core/back would help with this - but at the moment i'm worried that i'm doing a bad thing for my pianism.

obviously quite concerned so any helpful replies will be vastly appreciated.

edit - I did xstretch on my "day off" just incase anyone wonders if I'm stretching enough

thanks!

Stimpers


I've played the piano for over 30 years. I also have played tennis for about 5 years. I've been doing P90X, Insanity, etc. for about 4 years. I also type quite a bit for work.

I'm not sure exactly what you're feeling, but I have also noticed effects. When I play, my hands will begin to ache, as well as my forearms. If you imagine holding your hands in a playing position, I would say that the ache is on the top parts of the hands and forearms. I also notice that my dexterity decreases more quickly over time as I play.

I haven't decided what the source of this problem is. I think part of it is over-gripping (gripping too tight) on the dumbbells and tennis racquet, but I don't think that's all of it. Since I concentrated on NOT over-gripping my tennis racquet, the problem has improved a bit, but has not gone away entirely.

I would guess that the only way to relieve the problems would be to stop aggravating your hands with the weight lifting, but I haven't tried that myself. Your grip strength may improve a bit with P90X, and that may help you, but I suspect that as long as you keep lifting, it will probably bother you.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that someone else also has experienced this problem. These days, I play for a shorter continuous period, rarely longer than 30 minutes at a time. (That's also because I just don't have much time.) I do a simpler warm-up piece, and then I play the piece that I'm focusing on the most, while my hands still feel good. Then I go on to other pieces that I'm still improving, which I will generally be doing slower anyway, and it won't matter as much if my fingers don't move as well.

A thought: I've heard of weight-lifting straps to help lift heavier weights. Could they be used for lighter weights as well? Perhaps you could lift what you need for P90X using them and give your hands a rest?

Melissa
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RE: p90x and piano playing
1/18/13 6:35 AM as a reply to Stimpers86.
Hi there! My brother is a classical pianist and has told me that since lifting creates tension in the forearms, it's not good for him to be lifting. That said, he is wanting to get in better shape and so I let him borrow P90X. He has used resistance bands instead of weights and has had great success. The bands don't create as much tension for him, but he still gets a great workout.

Though he also has built up the muscles in his hands and fingers due to years of playing and really never had the issue you are having. He also used to use a Gripmaster "hand strengthener" to increase the strength in his hands and fingers. Maybe this will help you too!
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RE: p90x and piano playing
1/25/13 3:42 PM as a reply to Stimpers86.
Thanks for the replies! As I thought it has calmed down a lot and things seem to be getting better emoticon

Cheers for the weighted gloves idea Melissa
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