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March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
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When I saw the preview of this workout my initial reaction was quite skeptical. The concept is that Mason pulls different cardio exercises out of a hat and Tony does a whole cardio workout not knowing what exercise is coming next. The confusion part is really for Tony, not the viewer. As everytime you pop the DVD in, the exercises will still be in the same order. So basically this is just another cardio workout with recycled moves from different programs from One on One, P90X, P90X plus and P90 Masters series.

I got the workout in the mail last night and reviewed it. While it seems like a reasonably good cardio workout at best, it actually got me thinking a little differently about what Tony was trying to do. Rather than follow the DVD blindly, he's actually handed up the tools to create our own workouts. There's no reason why we couldn't write down a bunch of moves on pieces of paper, put them in out own hat, and end up with our very own cardio confision workout. Of course, we'd need to be comfortable enough with the moves to be able to do them without needing a cue, and we'd need to monitor our own time with a stopwatch. But hey, most of us on the OoO discussion boards are experienced BeachBodyers anyway and this wouldn't be a problem.

Let me know your thoughts of the workout and the above.

Dave
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 9:16 AM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
I completely agree with you Dave. The first time I watched the trailer for this workout it got me thinking the same way, "Hey, that's such a good idea, I should create my own cardio confusion 1 day a week!" Because no matter what, lets say if I make Tuesdays my Cardio Confusion day, with enough moves being pulled out of a hat, you have limitless possibilities!

With your help, and the other beachbody members here, lets start compiling a list of all of the Cardio moves from Tony's workouts, then people can take the ones that they like, and are familiar with, and create their OWN cardio confusion!

Also, if anyone needs help learning any of the moves, we can assist them here in explaining how they are done.

Here is a brief list of some of Tony's Cardio workouts that I have, and I will do my best to post the moves from each one, and people can add what they wish!

P90X - Plyometrics
P90X - Cardio X
P90X - Kenpo X

P90X+ - Interval X Plus
P90X+ - Kenpo Cardio Plus

One on One Vol. 1 - Medicine Ball Core Cardio
One on One Vol. 1 - Super Cardio (Cardio 5-6 Plus)
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 12:06 PM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
P90X - Plyometrics

Jump Squat 30 secs.
Run-stance Squat 30 secs
Airborne Heisman 30 secs
Swing Kick 60 secs
Squat Reach Jump 30 secs
Run-stance Squat Switch 30 secs
Double Airborne Heisman 30 secs
Circle Run 60 secs
Jump Knee Tuck 30 secs
Mary Katherine Lunge 30 secs
Leapfrog Squat 30 secs
Twist Combo 60 secs
Rock Star Hop 30 secs
Gap Jump 30 secs
Squat Jacks 30 secs
Military March 60 secs
Run Squat 180 Jump 30 secs
Lateral Leapfrog Squat 30 secs
Monster Truck Tire 30 secs
Hot Foot 60 secs
Pitch & Catch 60 secs
Jump Shot 60 secs
Football Hero 60 secs
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 9:49 AM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
tbone2584:

P90X - Plyometrics
P90X - Cardio X
P90X - Kenpo X

P90X+ - Interval X Plus
P90X+ - Kenpo Cardio Plus

One on One Vol. 1 - Medicine Ball Core Cardio
One on One Vol. 1 - Super Cardio (Cardio 5-6 Plus)


I would also add:

One on One Vol 2 - Cardio Intervals
P90X - Core Synergistics (there are some moves in there, but probably just those repeated in Cardio X would work best anyway)

And if you wanted to get really crazy (and lets face it, who doesn't?) we could also add Insanity moves to this.

You are right, the possibilities are endless!
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 9:51 AM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
I'm heading out of town shortly and won't be back until later this week. But will post some things then if others haven't already. Of all the moves, we can maybe shorten the list to our "favourite 30" or something.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 10:27 AM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
davexer:
tbone2584:

P90X - Plyometrics
P90X - Cardio X
P90X - Kenpo X

P90X+ - Interval X Plus
P90X+ - Kenpo Cardio Plus

One on One Vol. 1 - Medicine Ball Core Cardio
One on One Vol. 1 - Super Cardio (Cardio 5-6 Plus)


I would also add:

One on One Vol 2 - Cardio Intervals
P90X - Core Synergistics (there are some moves in there, but probably just those repeated in Cardio X would work best anyway)



Yeah, Core is kind of a special case. You're right that the moves also appearing in Cardio X are the best candidates. And it's not an accident that Tony got rid of the weights used in the Core version of some of those moves to make them more "pure" cardio (he also added jumping to Squat X Press which I definitely wouldn't want to try with weights in my hands at full extension).

Prison Cell Push-Ups, for example, might be the move that wears me out the most in that routine, but it's also very upper-body intensive. It works well in Core Synergistics, which you'd do either on a recovery week or in place of a resistance workout (if doing the Lean version), but as part of a cardio routine sandwiched in between two upper-body resistance days, it would be out of place. I'm afraid the same might be true for some of the Medicine Ball Core Cardio moves (although you could always reduce and possibly even eliminate the weight).

The one Core move that comes to mind that isn't in Cardio X is towel hopping. Although Prison Cell Push-Ups is more of a total-body carnage move, Towel Hopping is the one that I can get my heart rate through the roof on. Then again, it's also a repeat, but in this case from Power 90.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 12:44 PM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
Interval X Plus

Run in Place 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Knee Kick, Front Kick 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Hop Squats 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Charleston Kicks 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Loading Dock 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Jockey Squats 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Tires 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Speed Skaters 60 secs. (3 speeds)
3 Count Pushups 60 secs. (3 speeds)
80/20 Squats 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Side Lunge, Side Kick 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Deep Jack Seats 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Plyo Lunge 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Jumping Jacks 60 secs. (3 speeds)
Carlito Three-Way Push-Ups 60 secs. (3 Speeds)
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 12:57 PM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
Core Synergistics (Cardio-type moves)

Squat Runs 60 secs.
Squat X-Press 60 secs. (with weight if desired)
Plank to Chataranga Run 60 secs. (switch every 10 seconds)
Walking Pushups 60 secs.
Towel Hoppers 60 secs.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 2:21 PM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
Good on ya, tbone!
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 3:29 PM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
Kenpo Cardio Plus

Jab Cross Shuffle 30 secs.
Hook, Uppercut Shuffle 30 secs.
Jab, Step, Cross 30 secs.
Double Hammer, Lunge, Sword 30 secs.
Low Block, Hammer, Front Kick 30 secs.
Side Speed Kicks 60 secs.
Jab, Uppercut, Back kick 30 secs.
Claw, Hammer, Lunge 30 secs.
Claw, Hammer, Front Kick 30 secs.
Back Fist, Hammer, Knee Kick, Front Kick 30 secs.
Elbow, Sword, Back Kick 60 secs.
The Gladiator 30 secs.
Spinning Swords 30 secs.
Spinning Sword, Back Hammer 30 secs.
Double Sword, Knee Kick, Back Kick 30 secs.
High Block, Knee Kick Burn Out 60 secs.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 5:38 PM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
Plyo Legs - these are moves that have rep counts, but can be substituted for time limits.

Sidelong Jump 30 secs.
Leapfrog Squats 30 secs. (slightly different than the Plyometrics version)
Four Corners 30 secs.
Eagen Brothers 60 secs.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 5:46 PM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
Super Cardio (Cardio 5-6 Plus)

Duck and cover 30 secs. (same as Run Stance Squat Switch)
Twist, Lunge, Reach and Jump 30 secs.
Squat Knee Kick 30 secs.
Squat, Spin, Jump 30 secs.
DB Scoot (sp?) 30 secs.
Tires 30 secs. (same as Wacky Jacks)

Kenpo moves are all repeated from either Kenpo X or Kenpo Cardio Plus
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/9/10 6:00 PM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
Medicine Ball Core Cardio - each move designed to be used with a medicine ball or some sort of weight (obviously)

Press Jacks 30 secs.
Curl Squats 30 secs.
Pivot Twist 30 secs.
March and Reach 30 secs.
Knee Up Run Twist 30 secs.
Squat and Reach 30 secs.
Lunge Around the World 30 secs.
Twister 30 secs.
Tire Twist 30 secs.
Step/Hop Overs 30 secs.
Knee Kick Pull 30 secs.
High/Low Pivot Twist 30 secs.
Side Lunge Press Pass 30 secs.
Crescent Chair 30 secs.
Hop Squat Around the World 30 secs.
Loading Dock with Bella Twist 30 secs.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/10/10 8:00 AM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
What strikes me as strange is that, from what I read in your comments, neither Tony nor Mason explicitly said that people should do this on the DVD (I won't receive the DVD myself from some time yet as Beachbody has fallen behind in mailing these to me).

I wish Tony would give more coaching info like this on how to build on the workout he provides.

One suggestion to consider is dividing the moves into different types, like
hard plyo (eg squat jumps)
easy plyo (eg side leap, Heismann)
plain cardio (eg circle run)
plank/pushup

and then having a more structured workout, like doing a random selection from each category in a cycle. Varying the rest time between exercises would also affect what categories you could pick.


This would be just to avoid getting too many moves of one type in a row.

If anyone is looking for a good, cheap timer for interval work, Google GymBoss.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/10/10 8:57 AM as a reply to bxxs.
bxxs:
What strikes me as strange is that, from what I read in your comments, neither Tony nor Mason explicitly said that people should do this on the DVD


You are absolutely correct. But if you also read in our comments, this DVD has spurred on our own creativity and got us thinking that we can create our own Cardio-confusion type workouts as well. And if you want to follow a specific plan, go right ahead, we are just throwing around ideas!
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/10/10 9:29 AM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
Here are a couple of free timers. They both have to be used with a computer though:

Software (very basic) stopwatch:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Miscellaneous/GymBossier.shtml

Here is a website that has some nice customization to it to tailor an interval circuit to your needs, can be used on a computer in offline mode as well:
http://www.speedbagforum.com/timer.html
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/10/10 9:50 AM as a reply to TRobbinsFitness.
tbone2584:
bxxs:
What strikes me as strange is that, from what I read in your comments, neither Tony nor Mason explicitly said that people should do this on the DVD


You are absolutely correct. But if you also read in our comments, this DVD has spurred on our own creativity and got us thinking that we can create our own Cardio-confusion type workouts as well. And if you want to follow a specific plan, go right ahead, we are just throwing around ideas!


bxxs has a good point. In Plyo, for instance, Tony made a point of arranging the moves in a "ramping up" fashion. The moves in the first round are very preliminary while the moves in round two are tougher and by round three it's all-out. I don't care how warmed up I am, I'm not going to want to draw "Jump Knee Tucks" out of a hat as my first move. Nor am I going to want to draw a very low-impact move when I'm about halfway through the routine.

I haven't seen Cardio Confusion yet (it should arrive in the next day or two), but I'll be curious to see how Tony handled this. Did he simply pick a number of moves with a similar intensity level so it didn't matter when they were picked or did he modify the basic move, making it either easier or tougher depending on where he was in the workout?
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/10/10 10:03 AM as a reply to seatownthunder.
The moves seem to be similar intensity. Although, intensity is relative. You can don the same move vigorously or not so intense. Tony actually shows this in the cooldown. A couple more exercises are selected and he shows how they can be modified to be cooling down exercises rather than intense ones.

Overall, the spirit of this thread is not necessarily to design our own P90X program. But instead, to appreciate that Tony has provided us with the keys to develop similar Cardio Confusion workouts by following his concept. He didn't explicitly state or suggest it anywhere, but some of us picked up on the idea and ran with it. As every time you pop the Cardio Confusion into the DVD player, it no longer becomes "confusion" and will just become a standard cardio program. We've explored a way to keep it interesting for ourselves.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/10/10 10:20 AM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
Don't get me wrong, I think what you guys are doing is great. One of the main reasons I read these threads and others is to get new ideas for workouts.

But what I found strange is not what you are doing, but rather why Tony would not make that suggestion himself on the DVD. He does this kind of thing on the coaching overdub tracks he does on other series (e.g. 10 minutes training and I think p90x+, if memory serves).

Maybe I can be a bit more controversial and say this: I think that volume 2 is not as good as volume 1, because the workout moves tend to repeat other DVDs Tony has done and also because the workouts are not as intense, overall. Adding coaching tips would be one reason for me to keep subscribing despite this.
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RE: March workout - Cardio Confusion, Mason's Choice
3/10/10 11:12 AM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
davexer:
The moves seem to be similar intensity. Although, intensity is relative. You can don the same move vigorously or not so intense. Tony actually shows this in the cooldown. A couple more exercises are selected and he shows how they can be modified to be cooling down exercises rather than intense ones.

Overall, the spirit of this thread is not necessarily to design our own P90X program. But instead, to appreciate that Tony has provided us with the keys to develop similar Cardio Confusion workouts by following his concept. He didn't explicitly state or suggest it anywhere, but some of us picked up on the idea and ran with it. As every time you pop the Cardio Confusion into the DVD player, it no longer becomes "confusion" and will just become a standard cardio program. We've explored a way to keep it interesting for ourselves.


Amen to that!

I agree, intensity is dependent on the one working out. You could start out with Jump Knee tucks, but at a much slower pace...then halfway through the workout you may have Leapfrog squats where you grab a medicine ball and go full out!

The idea behind this thread was to inspire everyone to try creating their own 'Cardio Confusion'.
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