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Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
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Hi - I have been doing Insanity for a few weeks now despite my back problems. It has been a little hard on my back, but it seems to be getting worse. I recently had an MRI done and was diagnosed with one bulging disc and another herniated disc. Wondering if anyone out there has been able to navigate through Insanity with similar disc problems? I hate to just throw in the towel. Thanks!
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
5/16/10 2:00 PM as a reply to 3judeman3.
I'm starting insanity tomorrow. I have been diagnosed with mild scoliosis. This has limited me in some training in the past, but hopefully I can get through without too much trouble. I hope your back problems ease up a little for you. I'll let you know how my back feels in a couple of days.
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5/22/10 8:34 AM as a reply to amped322.
Well, I took a week or so off from Insanity, hoping that I could give it another shot, being very careful this time to avoid those lower back stressing aspects of the workout. Did a routine this morning, and no dice...hurts like pure heck. Sadly, I fear that my Insanity days are over. Hate that.

Good luck with yours, amped322.
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5/22/10 9:13 AM as a reply to 3judeman3.
I am! I have 4 herniated discs and spondylosis (basically degeneration causing further arthritic damage) I recently underwent my second series of 3 epidural steroid injections, the last was May 7th and I am doing this.
I modify some of the movements that involve jumping with impact and as I've gone along my back has gotten stronger along with my stomach. I don't know for you how acute the injury and pain are but I do have some days with a moment of "uh-oh" so I modify while still working til I sweat and wanna die.
Hope this helps and hang in there!
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5/23/10 7:51 AM as a reply to 3judeman3.
My back problems are different than yours whereas i have flexability and twisting issues. Versus where you have compression issues. All I can say about my own situation is that some of the stretches in insanity are impossible for me to do, and the flat back position is not realistic for me to get good form in. All in all I cant complain about much. I just modify some of the angles that i do exercises in, and push through. I hope you find something that works for you.
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5/28/10 2:42 PM as a reply to amped322.
first hiccup in back problems tonight. well actually its been going on since day one but tonight i couldnt power through. When i do sprints in plank position without a popping sound/sensation in my spine and a shooting pain and tingle in my left leg. So i'll be sitting out that particular exercise for a while, but other than that..... i guess all is well
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5/29/10 8:52 AM as a reply to 3judeman3.
One of the main reasons I started P90X a year ago was to condition my core (mainly my lower back). I do a lot of whitewater kayaking and snowboarding, and at times both of these spotrs have caused back problems for me, specifically herniated discs in my lower back. Since I have started P90X my lower back problems have almost completely disappeared. I also have a certain spot in my upper back that constantly gets out of alignment. My chiropractor, who is also a sports physician, has told me not to do pushups for 3-4 weeks after he realigns me but I never listen. So with insanity my upper back has been a little annoying but not incapacitating. I've just decided to deal with it until I am finished with Insanity, which is only 2 more weeks.

As far as lower back issues, I have been much more apprehensive, because my lower back problems do incapicitate me when it flares up, which thankfully has not happened for quite a while. I recommend that you first, listen to your body. You know what your pain threshold is, and if it is getting worse then that is most likely not a good sign. Also, talk with your doctor about it. One of the reason's I like my chiropractor is because he is a medical doctor with a background in sports medicine and he therefore is pretty good at helping me figure out what exercises are good, or not good, for me. And believe me, I've never trusted chiropractors in the past.

Maybe you need to do some healing, followed by some core strengthening, before first jumping into Insanity. I know at least for me, once my lower back goes I am done for, at least until I finally give in and patiently allow my back to heal. And on a final note, my doctor also showed me some body positions to practice when my disc becomes herniated to counteract the bulge and speed up the healing. So, consult with your doctor.

Good look

chris
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5/29/10 9:59 AM as a reply to amped322.
I know that pain and tingle down the leg. It is a horrible feeling. I usually try to do it just not pulling my legs up as high, I get the benefit of some muscle work and the cardio but limit the pull on my back. It's hard to explain but I try and find the point just before where I think "ok if I pull up a half an inch I'm going to hurt" and work from that point and less without skipping the exercise.
Some of the moves that I can't do properly, I find a substitute that seems like it is working the same muscles. I know it isn't easy. I had a moment the other night where I was terrified I was done. I limited my jumping for the rest of the work out and did squats with a stretch in place of the jumping. Hope that helps emoticon
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
5/29/10 10:05 AM as a reply to CHcreeker.
CHcreeker:
One of the main reasons I started P90X a year ago was to condition my core (mainly my lower back). I do a lot of whitewater kayaking and snowboarding, and at times both of these spotrs have caused back problems for me, specifically herniated discs in my lower back. Since I have started P90X my lower back problems have almost completely disappeared. I also have a certain spot in my upper back that constantly gets out of alignment. My chiropractor, who is also a sports physician, has told me not to do pushups for 3-4 weeks after he realigns me but I never listen. So with insanity my upper back has been a little annoying but not incapacitating. I've just decided to deal with it until I am finished with Insanity, which is only 2 more weeks.

As far as lower back issues, I have been much more apprehensive, because my lower back problems do incapicitate me when it flares up, which thankfully has not happened for quite a while. I recommend that you first, listen to your body. You know what your pain threshold is, and if it is getting worse then that is most likely not a good sign. Also, talk with your doctor about it. One of the reason's I like my chiropractor is because he is a medical doctor with a background in sports medicine and he therefore is pretty good at helping me figure out what exercises are good, or not good, for me. And believe me, I've never trusted chiropractors in the past.

Maybe you need to do some healing, followed by some core strengthening, before first jumping into Insanity. I know at least for me, once my lower back goes I am done for, at least until I finally give in and patiently allow my back to heal. And on a final note, my doctor also showed me some body positions to practice when my disc becomes herniated to counteract the bulge and speed up the healing. So, consult with your doctor.

Good look

chris


It is possible to do without a full period of rest, I started Insanity right on the heels of a series of epidural shots for herniated/bulging discs and my core is strengthening tremendously. I think it may be the muscles healing after an injury and hitting that while my body was trying to heal from the injections may have given me a shield or a boost of some kind.
While never a sedentary person, I did not do any regular exercise before Insanity since I was a teen (im 35 and about 40-50 lbs overweight)
So while not advised and certainly not condoned by anyone. it is possible with awareness of your own limitations to push through it while being sure you don't push too far.
I read a recent article that said that downward dog and hip flexors are great for strengthening the lumbar spine. I was psyched!
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
5/29/10 11:07 AM as a reply to 3judeman3.
I have never had back issues before (except for sore muscles from working out hard) but after doing Insanity for almost 3 weeks, my lower back joints are so sore, it hurts to get out of bed in the morning. I am fairly fit, have done P90X through more than once, and am only about 10 lbs overweight. There is no particular exercise (although I'm careful with my form when doing Suicide Drills, thinking the bent over position is maybe not so great) when doing Insanity that hurts my back, but boy, do I feel it the next day. Anyone have any idea which exercises could be causing this? I am always super careful with my form.
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6/1/10 3:12 PM as a reply to hotchili.
make sure your not overflexing your back on the in outs and level 1's and 2's. thats my only guess.
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
9/21/10 11:57 AM as a reply to 3judeman3.
Yes. I have L5S1 herniation. I had laminectomy done last year. I completed P90x two months + and not started insanity. It's been a week and now my lowerback is hurting. Right around last vertebrae. Little scary. So missed the workout today. I'll try to get in slowly tomorrow. The flat back with straight arms, is impossible for me. I just do regular stretch (touch toes, side lunge, etc.) and don't follow the exact stretch routine.

If it hurting, stop before it gets bad. I'll give it one more week. If it still bothers then I am going back to P90x. I think that's better program.

B.
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
9/21/10 12:30 PM as a reply to 3judeman3.
Remember, Insanity is for those needing/wanting an extreme workout. You should consult with your doctor about doing a program like this(or any program really), especially with a back injury, whether acute or chronic. None of the benefits of Insanity! matter if you permanently injure yourself. I've just started this program with a bad ankle and bad knees, but I went to my doctor and went over the fit test with her to make sure we though I could handle the work. Even then, she recommended I stop any time that I feel pain in these joints, for the same reason. I wish you luck, but even P90X should be ran by your doctor first!
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
9/22/10 12:27 PM as a reply to 3judeman3.
3judeman3:
Well, I took a week or so off from Insanity, hoping that I could give it another shot, being very careful this time to avoid those lower back stressing aspects of the workout. Did a routine this morning, and no dice...hurts like pure heck. Sadly, I fear that my Insanity days are over. Hate that.

Good luck with yours, amped322.


I've got 2 herniated disc and another bulging all in my lower back. If you wait till you're feeling better and have given you body some time to do a little healing I think you can do Insanity.

Here's the prescription I followed. I did the whole program but the first hint of any pain in my back I skipped that exercise and that included most jumping for the first couple of weeks. As my body strengthened especially my core I was able to start doing the jumping exercises as well. I still don't do the Bronco jump in the MAX SPORTS DVD but I can do everything else. There are times that it flares up but nothing like it used to be and when if flares up I don't jump for awhile and it goes away rather quickly.

I have done 2 full rounds of insanity and my back is in the best shape it's been in a long number of years. I was out of work for a full year in the recent past because of my back and now it's as strong as ever. If you work the CORE and really do as Shaun explain I think you will find your back as good as ever but let it heal first.

FYI.. I did fast and furious last week (lots of jumps) and my back hurt for 2 days solid but I quit the jumps and just did it yesterday and lo and behold no pain..

GOOD LUCK BRO.. I think you can do it...
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9/22/10 1:43 PM as a reply to Insanityrulz.
I love the determination y'all demonstrate.

You remind me of the INSANITY infomercial when Shaun T mentions the kind of people that the program is not for. 'If your the kind of person who looks for excuses; if your lazy, INSANITY is not for you.'

Y'all 'look for excuses' to keep going and digging.

You all ROCK!
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
9/23/10 7:20 PM as a reply to greg61b.
I just started Insanity this week and I have a few discs that are jacked up. I also broke L1-L3 in a head on collision in the past. I did P90X before this which I think really strengthened my core. My back hurt a bit where the discs are messed up yesterday but today it was fine. Like some others mentioned, just listen to your body and take a break when needed emoticon Dig deeper and stay safe!
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
5/31/12 10:19 AM as a reply to 3judeman3.
I have found that my back pain was mild initially. I pushed through and now with only 2.5 weeks of the program left, i am side lined. The Max DVDs are no joke and this is where I encountered most of my pain. I have deterioration in my L4 & L5. I am going to try to modify and push through. Good luck
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
5/31/12 10:46 AM as a reply to 3judeman3.
Hi! I'm on Day 46 of Insanity presently and also suffer from lower back problems. My L4/L5 are bulging and I have horrible lower back arthritis and my doctor in the past, due to a pretty nasty looking MRI told me that the more activity that I do, the better it will get. Sadly enough, Insanity week 1 and 2 destroyed my back, week 3 and 4 I was fine, week 6 I was more sore than normal, and now week 6 I hurt. I find myself being able to push myself more weeks than others and it seems that this is a great contributing factor to my soreness. Definitely take it easy with moves that twist or put pressure on your spine and master the moves to be safe.

Ice on my back after definitely helped too!
Hope all works out for you!
- Kim
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RE: Anyone Doing Insanity With Back/Disc Problems?
9/29/13 8:26 AM as a reply to KaN6382.
hi guys I also find I am starting to have lower back problems doing insanity. just at the bottom of my spine ( imagine putting your fist vertical on your spine just above your belt) and thats where it hurts. also my knees have been hurting a lot since starting, I had a rest and my back and knees eased up. I am working on the form far more and going to see which affects me more. anyone had knee problems
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