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P90-XL (A thread for BIG people) *Updated May 27th, 2011*
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The thread chronicles MY journey as a big guy, as well as the journey of all KINDS of folks who are all KINDS of sizes! Here's the only requirement: your dissatisfaction with your current fitness state. We've got regular posters from the 160 lb range to almost 500 lbs, with one thing in common: it's TOUGH to do these moves in their current state. I understand this, and I've lived it.

If that sounds like you - introduce yourself. There's not a better bunch of guys and girls on this site - no male models, no "head-case," egomaniac, runway queens... just us "bigz" with a firm grip on the reality of our situation and the commitment to better it: to become better husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles, coaches, athletes, and more.

So don't hesitate to introduce yourself. We're ALL here for you!

You're not alone!


God bless y'all,
-Matt

*Below you'll see me at the beginning, middle, and the last 2 are from May 2011
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the "X" w/pics!
8/5/10 6:47 AM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
...and here I am today (day 59 when I posted this) - two-thirds of the way through.
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
8/5/10 6:48 AM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
So - some observations thus far:

My body gains muscle crazy fast - I was using 6 lb weights for phase one, in an attempt to not put on too much muscle, as I wanted to "lean" out my shape. Didn't happen! I put on muscle in my back and arms so fast it was CRAZY. I attribute that to the body-weight exercises that were moving a LOT of weight - pull ups, push ups, and yoga (a workout I have come to love, btw!)

I moved to 10 lb dumbbells for phase 2 and the same thing - in fact my back got RIPPED this month! I was also able to finally do 5 reverse-grip chinups with no chair during week 8!!! I had honestly started to think it would never come.

I'm using 15's for almost all of my dumbbell moves this third month.

*While using these REALLY light weights, I've been doubling or sometimes tripling the reps, fyi.

Also: diet is at least 60% of our progress in the "X" - when I started really getting serious about my calories and the protein/carb/fat breakdown, I starting seeing more muscle gains and less soreness, alongside the highly-anticipated waist size shrinkage. I use "myfitnesspal.com" Free and easy to set up the p90x percentages as a goal.


So be encouraged: slow, steady, RELENTLESS progress is being made @ my house, and if you modify the moves until you can do SOMETHING like what they're doing on the dvd's, you'll see results, too. If you're like me, the scale won't be how you judge your progress... athletic ability, clothes fitting better, and random comments from your friends you haven't seen in a while - THAT'S how you know things are changing. Don't be discouraged by the numbers on a scale! To quote my friend Regina:

"The scale shows you your weight, not your worth."

Amen.

-Matt
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 12:36 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
All I can say so far is Congrats on awesome work. I started at 297 and now in week 6 down to 280.2

I still can't get a pullup/chinup completed, though almost 1/2 way up as opposed to no distance on day 1.

Can't wait to see where you are on Day 90!
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through P90X w/pics!
7/28/10 12:42 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
...and my friend JOSH wins the prize for first Team Xcellent Fitness dude/dudette to post over here!!!

Josh, not sure if you've tried this, but for weeks leading up to my "chinup breakthrough" I would do 'em with a chair, obviously, but also try to jump up and sloooooowly lower my weight back down. Getting the negative is a BIG reason I believe I just got it that one amazing day emoticon I'd say 3 weeks of really doing the "negative" thing - supporting as best you can while gravity slowly shows you how weak you are - were the main reason.

Also, cross-train those muscles - really REALLY start going either heavy or more reps on anything bicep/upper back related. Lawnmowers and all the flavors of curls were things I'd pause and REALLY blast, with my pull-up goal in mind.


Wishing I had 17 pounds off,
Matt
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 12:51 PM as a reply to TheBodyForYou.
I had read that that does help, I started doing it this Monday actually. My arms felt hecka more sore but obviously it is working some other parts. I was using bands but I think trying to lift my frame up and down is more of a workout than the bands gave me in the weeks leading up.

LOL at weight loss, I want to have the muscle show.
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 1:27 PM as a reply to TheBodyForYou.
Loving the "BIG GUY" thread! I am starting at 250 lbs (don't quite have the same height, I am only 6') Matt I too have been using the negative for the pull-ups, also using the wifes total gym on the highest setting. I have already dropped 10 lbs, but I think most of that has beeen cause of a job change and dropping the Mt Dews. Josh know what you mean about sore, I can barley use most of my body and I am only on day 3!! I think I am so sore from using 25 lb DB's. I am looking to put on some size, and just lose the spare tire (can't say beer gut since I don't drink) The best to ya'll, keep pushing play!
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 1:45 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
MACE! And we have another Xcellent visitor emoticon

Great job giving up the Dew. They're a real weakness of mine! I've recently had my 2nd soda in 9 weeks, so I'm doing reaaaaally good for me. My nutrition could definitely be better, but our budget doesn't allow a lot of supplements. I use whey and creatine from wal-mart. That's it, and the rest has been pulling in things I have found work great for me: eggs, chicken, beef, turkey, fat-free cottage cheese (awesome for when you need more protein and NOT MORE FAT), low-fat cheese sticks (awesome for when you need protein but NOT MORE CARBS).

If you're looking to put on size, be aware that the high cardio component in p90x can be a deterrent to "bulking" your muscles. You'll get ripped - my back is an example of what p90x can do in a build like mine... Make sure you're going heavy - 6-10 reps sort of weight. Mass=strength, so you need to focus on heavy weights to get your strength up... moreso than your muscular endurance (my focus with high reps)


Thanks for posting, and keep up the good work!

-Matt
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through P90X w/pics!
7/28/10 1:57 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
All of you have made big gains. Matt you should in no way be discouraged with your progress. I am 6'3" 280lbs 30% bf. I will be starting monday. I hope when I am done I can make the progress that you guys are making. Thanks for getting me hyped up about starting the X.
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 2:31 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
DEAN! - You're right about where I am, build-wise. Tall+heavy= pullups made me cry. You must tame the p90x like a wild stallion and make it work FOR YOU. Show that thing who's boss emoticon

Can't wait to see your results, man!

-Matt
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 3:05 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
Yay! I'm glad you started this thread.

Being on P90XL definitely presents its own set of unique challenges. It's not usually something that gets discussed or brought to light in the fitness arena. Like, even warming up takes me longer than a few minutes. I'm 6' so there's a lot of body to warm. There's an assumption that people over a certain size simply aren't active or don't care so that isn't considered in the way a lot of programs are designed. So not seeing yourself represented in the mainstream makes it hard to get started. Even on the commercials for weight loss or fitness products, no one really acknowledges that someone that is bigger than average might have to devote a little more time and energy to getting where they want to be. It's like if you don't lose 10 lbs. a week then you're a failure.

A part of the reason I like this program is because you can make it yours. You can use the modifications and build up at your own pace without thinking it's going to happen in two weeks. It's 90 days, minimum. One of the things I appreciated in the new infomercial is the guy that they showed that did four rounds of the program before he really got ripped. I think multiple rounds is a reality that most of us are going to experience.

So, this journey has been enlightening for me on a physical, psychological and spiritual level. I've always felt confident in my ability to do certain things. But to create or maintain physical fitness wasn't one of them. Whether it's from my own insecurities or things other people have said to me over the years, I just never thought I could be really fit and in shape. Big Guys have their share of struggles but Big Girls? Fuggedaboutit!

For most of my life, I didn't even have a scale in my house. It was as though my mind and my body had a disconnect. Ignorace is bliss, right? So, a major hurdle for me was just buying a scale and getting on it. Regularly. But it's a process. You have to be comfortable in your own skin. I am now and every day that I finish the X I feel a little bit closer to becoming the person I want to be.

I am hopeful that your transformation pictures (and eventually mine) will show people that yeah, you can start in the basement and end up in the penthouse.

Stay strong! I am embrace who I am and where I am. I am thankful for my body and the fabulousness therein and the ability to complete each workout. I'm right where I'm supposed to be in the body I'm supposed to be in. Simply put, God doesn't make mistakes. He made us this way for a reason.

Your friend and neighbor,
Regina*
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 3:11 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
badhorsie777:
MACE! And we have another Xcellent visitor emoticon

Great job giving up the Dew. They're a real weakness of mine! I've recently had my 2nd soda in 9 weeks, so I'm doing reaaaaally good for me. My nutrition could definitely be better, but our budget doesn't allow a lot of supplements. I use whey and creatine from wal-mart. That's it, and the rest has been pulling in things I have found work great for me: eggs, chicken, beef, turkey, fat-free cottage cheese (awesome for when you need more protein and NOT MORE FAT), low-fat cheese sticks (awesome for when you need protein but NOT MORE CARBS).

If you're looking to put on size, be aware that the high cardio component in p90x can be a deterrent to "bulking" your muscles. You'll get ripped - my back is an example of what p90x can do in a build like mine... Make sure you're going heavy - 6-10 reps sort of weight. Mass=strength, so you need to focus on heavy weights to get your strength up... moreso than your muscular endurance (my focus with high reps)


Thanks for posting, and keep up the good work!

-Matt


Glad to here that you use the whey/creatine from Wal-Mart. I plan on getting some and was wondering about it. I am using the chocolate milk as of right now (now who did I hear that from?? LOL). Like you I don't have a budget for a bunch of stuff. I am going to use the whey/creatine, and the multi vitamins that I take and that is about it.
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 3:17 PM as a reply to A50FootWoman.
Well said Regina!!


Save room in that penthouse for the rest of us!!
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 4:23 PM as a reply to A50FootWoman.
A50FootWoman:
Yay! I'm glad you started this thread.

Being on P90XL definitely presents its own set of unique challenges. It's not usually something that gets discussed or brought to light in the fitness arena. Like, even warming up takes me longer than a few minutes. I'm 6' so there's a lot of body to warm. There's an assumption that people over a certain size simply aren't active or don't care so that isn't considered in the way a lot of programs are designed. So not seeing yourself represented in the mainstream makes it hard to get started. Even on the commercials for weight loss or fitness products, no one really acknowledges that someone that is bigger than average might have to devote a little more time and energy to getting where they want to be. It's like if you don't lose 10 lbs. a week then you're a failure.

A part of the reason I like this program is because you can make it yours. You can use the modifications and build up at your own pace without thinking it's going to happen in two weeks. It's 90 days, minimum. One of the things I appreciated in the new infomercial is the guy that they showed that did four rounds of the program before he really got ripped. I think multiple rounds is a reality that most of us are going to experience.

So, this journey has been enlightening for me on a physical, psychological and spiritual level. I've always felt confident in my ability to do certain things. But to create or maintain physical fitness wasn't one of them. Whether it's from my own insecurities or things other people have said to me over the years, I just never thought I could be really fit and in shape. Big Guys have their share of struggles but Big Girls? Fuggedaboutit!

For most of my life, I didn't even have a scale in my house. It was as though my mind and my body had a disconnect. Ignorace is bliss, right? So, a major hurdle for me was just buying a scale and getting on it. Regularly. But it's a process. You have to be comfortable in your own skin. I am now and every day that I finish the X I feel a little bit closer to becoming the person I want to be.

I am hopeful that your transformation pictures (and eventually mine) will show people that yeah, you can start in the basement and end up in the penthouse.

Stay strong! I am embrace who I am and where I am. I am thankful for my body and the fabulousness therein and the ability to complete each workout. I'm right where I'm supposed to be in the body I'm supposed to be in. Simply put, God doesn't make mistakes. He made us this way for a reason.

Your friend and neighbor,
Regina*


Regina -

I'm in seminary right now, so I KNOW folks who are gifted at communication. Some theologians tend to write very dryly and overly verbose (a weakness I can slip into) at the expense of grabbing the reader/hearer's interest.

All that to say: you are not one of those people. I swear every time you post something, I hear a new snippet I plan on regurgitating as I attempt to inspire those around me.

- P90X - 90 days. MINIMUM.
- I am thankful for my body and the fabulousness therein...
- ...every day that I finish the X I feel a little bit closer to becoming the person I want to be.

and a previous favorite:

- The scale tells you your weight. Not your worth.

I knew I liked southern women (so much I married one!) Y'all have this knack to succinctly express what's at the heart of an issue in a unique way! The southeast's loss is Cali's gain, my friend!!!


I hear ya about big girls. My wife, who is currently conquering her way through P90X, tells me all the time about the unfairness that guys AND girls give big(ger) girls: some jerk guys treat em like they have nothing whatsoever to offer and some witchy girls give you looks for just browsing a side of the store that they're SURE you can't fit in.


I'm not a racist or a sexist or any kind of 'ist, really. Stupid comes in every shape, color, age, and economic bracket. The woman (or dude, if you're a guy reading this) you show yourself to be by staring down a challenge like P90X, bearing your soul to relative strangers, and putting yourself out there with the chance of failure, is a woman (or dude, again) worth much more than meets the eye. We all have layers, and as we peel the fat away, those of substance don't change: the world gets to finally see what we've had hidden away! That is, character, perseverance, empathy, and all sorts of good stuff the "perfect" few can't learn outside of the school-of-hard-knocks.


I leave y'all with a quote by a remarkable woman, who (like Regina) had a thing with words:

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and above all confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something and that this thing must be attained."

-Marie Curie



May God bless the fruits of our labor,
-Matt (GA Matt to my friend Regina)
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through P90X w/pics!
7/28/10 4:32 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
Mace, If you have a Sam's club by you, That is where I bought my protein from. I bought EAS 100% whey protein 76 servings 5lb bag for $27. Good Deal. I hope this will help you.
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through P90X w/pics!
7/28/10 5:09 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
Big Guys Room....As we use to say in the Military police Corp "Kick Azz and taking no names" Hoo-rah !!!

Started the plan july 11 at 270lbs with a weigh in once a week on sunday morning. Started week 3 this past july 25th at 255 and slowly truckin forward.

Nice to be a part of the thread.
Jay
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7/28/10 5:15 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
15 lbs?! HOo-ah!
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7/28/10 6:53 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
Thats the same one I currently have, though temped to try out the Carnivore at GNC. It has interesting reviews.
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RE: P90-XL: A Big Guy's Journey Through the
7/28/10 7:47 PM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
badhorsie777:


Regina -

I'm in seminary right now, so I KNOW folks who are gifted at communication. Some theologians tend to write very dryly and overly verbose (a weakness I can slip into) at the expense of grabbing the reader/hearer's interest.

All that to say: you are not one of those people. I swear every time you post something, I hear a new snippet I plan on regurgitating as I attempt to inspire those around me.

- P90X - 90 days. MINIMUM.
- I am thankful for my body and the fabulousness therein...
- ...every day that I finish the X I feel a little bit closer to becoming the person I want to be.

and a previous favorite:

- The scale tells you your weight. Not your worth.

I knew I liked southern women (so much I married one!) Y'all have this knack to succinctly express what's at the heart of an issue in a unique way! The southeast's loss is Cali's gain, my friend!!!


I hear ya about big girls. My wife, who is currently conquering her way through P90X, tells me all the time about the unfairness that guys AND girls give big(ger) girls: some jerk guys treat em like they have nothing whatsoever to offer and some witchy girls give you looks for just browsing a side of the store that they're SURE you can't fit in.


I'm not a racist or a sexist or any kind of 'ist, really. Stupid comes in every shape, color, age, and economic bracket. The woman (or dude, if you're a guy reading this) you show yourself to be by staring down a challenge like P90X, bearing your soul to relative strangers, and putting yourself out there with the chance of failure, is a woman (or dude, again) worth much more than meets the eye. We all have layers, and as we peel the fat away, those of substance don't change: the world gets to finally see what we've had hidden away! That is, character, perseverance, empathy, and all sorts of good stuff the "perfect" few can't learn outside of the school-of-hard-knocks.


I leave y'all with a quote by a remarkable woman, who (like Regina) had a thing with words:

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and above all confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something and that this thing must be attained."

-Marie Curie



May God bless the fruits of our labor,
-Matt (GA Matt to my friend Regina)


YES, Matt, MINIMUM!

The Southeast hasn't lost a thing. Thanks to the beauty of the internet, we can all hold hands during this adventure.

Although my undergrad degree is in Behavioral Science, I won't get all Freudian or anything. I could write my entire dissertation on how big(ger) girls are treated in our society. But I won't soap box...for now. I will say that it's fear that keeps the "ism's" going among us. Racism, sexism, you-name-it-ism. And those fears are what make people so judgmental about others' looks, possessions, cash flow, etc. Whenever I hear someone try to put someone else down, I always wonder what is lacking in that person that makes them spew bile so readily. I always feel like saying, here's a ladder, now get over yourself. Just let other people be.

Be kind for everyone is fighting a hard battle - Plato

I've always felt that although my vessel (body) might change as I walk through this world, the essence of who I am will remain the same. What you see is what you get. And it took a long time for me to be proud of that. So anyone who sees fit to judge me based on the size, shape, color of my vessel will be the one to suffer the loss. If you can't get past my exterior, then I certainly won't feel like I'm missing out on knowing you.

Regina*
We're not here to prove, we're here to IMprove
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7/29/10 9:09 AM as a reply to GAMattP90XL.
Woke up early and banged out 1 1/2 hours of Yoga X, baby!

All you bigs out there - I feel like my body just can't get to the "half-moon-twist" and not just b/c my belly's in there. I feel like my rear deltoids are too big to twist my arm pointing up. I get about halfway up - maybe a smidge more. Is this a case of "wait and get more flexible" ??? Hope so, b/c I'm really enjoying how Yoga helps to transform my body, and I'm grateful for it being such a big part of P90x, since I probably wouldn't have tried it otherwise.

-Matt
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