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Supreme 90day??
Supreme 90day??
1/28/11 2:45 PM
Stumbled across the infomercial the other day. Has anyone seen it. If I didn't know any better, I would say this a carbon copy of P90X with a different name. What a ripoff! The resistance DVD's have the same names!! I checked it out further and it's not a Beachbody product at all and the price is only $19.95??
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RE: Supreme 90day??
3/2/11 1:53 PM as a reply to stablatic.
Yeah I just saw it, seems like a gimmick but i haven't heard reviews yet.
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RE: Supreme 90day??
3/2/11 2:15 PM as a reply to aricxx123.
I know someone who bought it, and I reviewed the DVDs. In short here would be my assessment:

- is it a ripoff of P90X? YES.

- if someone did this as standalone program could they get good results? Not sure... the workouts have a core feel to them and doesn't emphasize heavy weights like some of the P90X workouts do

- it seems they tried to create a program that focuses in on the criticisms of P90X... ie, there's no Yoga, there's a standalone legs workout that uses weights, their chest workout uses dumbbells and not just pushups, and the back workouts don't use pullups, etc. But having said all that, I personally feel those criticisms aren't warranted as P90X is a complete fitness system with obvious results

- the nutrition plan is essentially useless. There is no way to scale it based on body type, weight, caloric needs, etc. There's a meal plan for men, and a meal plan for women - that's it. Very inflexible and not very well thought out, in my opinion

- there is no manual that comes with it. It's simply a workout calendar

- the case the DVDs come in is flimsy and falls apart the moment you try to get a DVD out

- there is an abs workout that is a "free bonus", but does not come in a case to put it in, and does not appear in the workout calendar anywhere

- the workouts themself do have some interesting twists. The cardio workouts seem to take bits of Insanity and P90X, and many cardio moves use weights. There is also a "tabata" workout which is a fancy name for a method using brief intervals (20 seconds on, 10 seconds rest).

- many of the workouts use a stability ball, including one workout dedicated entirely to a stability ball core workout

- the price is quite unbeatable, but it really needs to be to attract people in.

- the host has the personality of tack, and he rarely cracks a smile. He's boring and not funny (doesn't even really try to crack jokes and amuse like Tony does).

- the people in these workout DVDs appear to be fitness models... I am highly skeptical they would get the results they have by using the program. And nowhere does it say that they are real people who have been through the program, so that adds to the skepticism. The before and after pictures in the ad of people who have actually gone through the program is actually quite underwhelming.

In my assessment, don't waste your money on this inferior product. The workouts, while interesting, are not to the same intensity as P90X, does not appear to be a cohesive program like P90X is, and the nutrition guide is rubbish. It seems they are trying to leverage the popularity of P90X and draw people in based on price alone... those "I can get the same results as P90X for a 6th of the price" people. But what you save in money you lose in quality, and most likely, results. Because this is not really a complete workout system, and no support community like this one is offered, I'd be surprised if a novice person could get significant results with the program.

So that's my assessment. It further proves that Beachbody has hit a home run with P90X and the market is attempting to catch up. But nothing can match P90X, the brand it's created, not to mention the followup MC2 which is going to blow that chasm even wider!

Go Beachbody!

Coach Davexer
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RE: Supreme 90day??
3/13/11 9:01 AM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
I love Beachbody, I'm on my second round of P90x following two rounds of Insanity, I plan on buying Asylum and P90x2, and I have a few of the One on Ones. I use the Recovery drink, and all around I think Beachbody is a fantastic company with fantastic products. emoticon

That being said, I have to admit to ordering the Supreme 90 program last night. I've been looking to add some more diversity to my routine, and at 30 bucks total for 11 workouts, this program deserves a shot. There are 5 resistance workouts, 3 cardio, and 3 core/abs. I'm also looking at Rushfit (7 or 8 workouts for 90 bucks) and Bob Harper's collection (4 workouts for 35 bucks).

Here's my rationale (or rather, my justification) for buying this program and considering the others. I've been working out non-stop since June 12, 2010. I've lost 95 lbs thus far, and I have no desire to stop, because I keep changing things up. I believe that P90X and Insanity offer great diversity, but it couldn't hurt to have more.

My major fitness focus right now is my core/abs. I'm trying to become an athlete, and I know that a strong core is crucial to performance. I have been doing Ab Ripper X, Cardio Abs, and Insane Abs, plus Core Synergistics, Core Cardio & Balance, and all the other core work that P90x and Insanity have to offer. But if muscle confusion truly is the silver bullet for fitness plateaus, then I think adding Ultimate Ball, Core Dynamics, and Supreme Rock Hard Abs from Supreme 90, and Abdominal Strength & Core Conditioning from Rushfit to my routine can only bring positive results.

I've looked at the One-on-One series for more diversity, but at 20 dollars a shot for one workout, it simply isn't economical. I can get 11 workouts at $2.80 each with Supreme 90. Yes, it may be a cheap P90X rip-off, but its still a workout with similar principles of resistance/cardio/plyo/core. I love Tony Horton, but seeing his face and hearing his voice isn't worth the extra $17.20 (at least not for a college student in this economy). Additionally, Rushit breaks down to $10-12 each, with a martial arts focus.

So, to conclude this rambling mess, I love Beachbody and I will continue to buy their products and come to these boards, but a little diversity is a good thing. And all this competition should light a fire under the company's butt to inspire them to create a program even better than P90X, if that is even possible. emoticon
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RE: Supreme 90day??
3/13/11 3:08 PM as a reply to childrenofsodom.
If nothing else, you'll get some variety by working some of those workouts into your rotation. Most of the lifting workouts do hit the core and are done in a quick circuit format, so don't expect the muscle gains you could get through P90X. But as you said, this would add to the muscle confusion philosophy (one which they also plug quite readily) and for the price point is a bargain - no question. However I again say to anyone considering this instead of a Beachbody product, do your homework first - BB offers unprecedented support, variety of programs, and nutrition second to none, and is well worth the extra cost.
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RE: Supreme 90day??
3/22/11 9:46 PM as a reply to CoachDaveXer.
Ok, I've lost some of my idealism. The package came in yesterday and I watched some of the workouts. Beautiful fitness models, boring host, no real "focus" on any of the body parts. The explanation of moves is poorly done, no commentary on form, not as much encouragement as Tony or Shaun T.

Today I did the Supreme Rock Hard Abs, which was 5 minutes of crunches. Definitely not on the level of ARX. And I did part of the Tabata Inferno, which was hard, but extremely boring. Basically squat jumps and mountain climbers on the ground for 8 minutes. They throw in different crunches into the cardio workouts, which sounds nice, but feels very disorganized.

Definitely not a fraction of the quality of P90x. I'm still going to try the resistance workouts, and throw in some core/ab work on top of my ARX or Insane/Cardio Abs....but I WOULD NOT suggest this program in place of P90X.

My 2 cents.
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